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by Papa_Tiger
Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:32 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you refuse to do business with 30.06 & 30.07 businesses?
Replies: 79
Views: 15909

Re: Do you refuse to do business with 30.06 & 30.07 businesses?

thetexan wrote:Why all of the contempt for property owners who don't want weapons? Yes, we can choose to take our business elsewhere, but why? Is it to punish the owners in an effort to make them "pay" for their daring to prevent you from exercising a right you don't even have on their property? Is that the motivation? "You can stop me but I'll show you and make you pay the economic price for exercising your legitimate right...my right to carry is greater than your right to stop me.", which is false on its face since our carry right doesn't even exist on privately owned property unless we are given the "privilege" of carrying on the owner's property by his bestowed consent.

It seems to me that the safety issue is more the point than the owner's philosophical difference on guns and our animosity toward him because of that difference of opinion.

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I do not have contempt for property owners who don't want weapons. To me it comes down to the fact that they have chosen to prevent me from protecting myself and those I have been given responsibility for in the best way I can.

My world view is very much informed by the Bible and my Christian faith, so please do not blank out just because I use some scripture. Based on my reading of Scripture and the general consensus of Christian history, I believe that God places a higher value on human life than he does on property. This is evidenced many places in the Old Testament and the New.

It wasn't until God made mankind, male and female, that he said his creation was very good. (Genesis 1:31) Prior to that, it was good.

Mankind is created in God's image (Genesis 1:27) making us his unique creation of all that we see.

God held Cain to account for the blood of his brother. (Genesis 4)

In the Levitical Law, God only allowed the death penalty for crimes against man, never against property. For crimes against property, restitution was called for, but not to the point of demanding the offender's life.

In the New Testament, Christ came to save sinners (mankind). God was willing to sacrifice his Son to restore our relationship with Him.

All of this together indicates to me that he places a higher priority on people than on things.

Accordingly, I find it out of step with God's priorities that a person, government, business or corporation would place the value of property or property rights above the value of people and giving others the ability to protect and defend people in the most effective way possible. This is also the reason that I generally would not use my firearm to stop a crime of property even though I may be legally justified in doing so. Stuff can be replaced, human life cannot.

So while 30.06 has the force of law, I will avoid doing business with businesses that post those signs as much as possible and practical and take my business to places that allow me to protect myself, my family and potentially others in the best way I am able.
by Papa_Tiger
Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:19 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you refuse to do business with 30.06 & 30.07 businesses?
Replies: 79
Views: 15909

Re: Do you refuse to do business with 30.06 & 30.07 businesses?

I generally refuse to go anywhere that has a 30.06 sign as they have stripped me of my best chance of self-defense should worse come to worst.

I will grumble about a 30.07, but realize it is essentially a dress code. Some people are freaked out by the sight of inanimate objects and some businesses have chosen to try to placate all of their customers by not allowing those inanimate objects to be seen by those who are offended/scared by them. It is generally easy to cover my handgun as I'm usually carrying IWB.

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