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by Kalrog
Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:50 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 369562

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

You are correct - that sign is not enforceable to CHLs.
by Kalrog
Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:59 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 369562

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

texasparamedic wrote: since the rule has changed... My question here is that there is 3 versions of this ruling. 2 saying no and 1 saying yes, but everything I have read says that the 30.06 statement must be in the policy manual if the employer wants to ban. Is this not correct?
What rule change and what 3 versions? Yes or no to what (specificity is important here - we are talking legal minutia).

A statement conforming to 30.06 wording does NOT need to be in the employee manual in order to be enforceable legally. But a governmental agency (which a city and everything the city own is) cannot enforce 30.06 regardless of where it is posted. Posted can be wording in the manual. Posting can be a sign. Posting can be on a card given out. Posting can even be verbal. The first 3 require specific wording. The second one requires additional things like size and colors. The final one can be just about anything.

Short version: You cannot be prosecuted for carrying on duty. You can be fired (but you knew that).
by Kalrog
Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:05 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 369562

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

texasparamedic wrote:This is long but I still need help
I would ask for a more specific question from you as well, but let me give you a general thought. IANAL.

First - they can make it a condition of employment that you not carry. You lose (short version)

Second - Do you work for a private company or a governmental operation? If private, they can post and it is legally enforceable. If public, the posting is not enforceable. They can post but it has no meaning at all. See the first point in either case.
by Kalrog
Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:27 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 369562

Re: Presbyterian Hospital of Greenville

S&W6946 wrote:So, does that mean they can't post 30.06 signs under 30.06 (e)as it is publicly owned property?
I would argue yes. And I in fact found the same thing with the Seton / Brackenridge chain in Austin. CHoA is city owned and not posted (but run by Seton who does post their hospitals).
by Kalrog
Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 369562

I wonder what would happen if you tried to utilize the same gun storage facilities as the officers... I bet they would be a bit surprised that you were armed and might try to make you a "guest". I guess it depends on the officer (and especially the boss).

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