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by cb1000rider
Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:17 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: TSA at Amtrak Austin
Replies: 46
Views: 15096

Re: TSA at Amtrak Austin

VMI77 wrote: Yes, but if you're taking that pic through the window with a telephoto lens, it may not be so clear cut. Once, seeing my son off, I spent some time waiting for the plane taking photos and videos inside the Austin airport --including photos of the TSA station and TSA personnel. No one said a word. Then, when leaving, I stopped to take a photo outside where cabs were depositing people, and got hassled by a rent-a-cop who acted like I was a potential "terrorist." I asked her, are you telling me I'm doing something illegal? She said no. I asked her if she wanted to look through the photos and she said no. So, it had nothing to do with security or the law, it was just another small minded person who felt powerful because she was wearing a uniform that said "security" on it.
It also has to do with our state of mind as a nation. She could have easily escalated her suspicions and you would have found yourself in handcuffs detained for quite a while... In the event that such happened, you did nothing wrong, she did nothing wrong, but the constitution gets steam-rolled.

To me it's not much different than the days of the "red scare" where being called a communist would get you in lots of trouble.

I have a friend. He's a software guy and a US citizen. English is his 2nd language, although he was born here. He's a brown man. He's big into guns and 2nd amendment rights. Lots of ARs and "assault" looking weapons. One day coming back from the gun range I teased him that it wouldn't be very pleasant for him (in the current state of the world) if he was stopped due to being reported as suspicious... I wouldn't do that to him, but I bet that he'd be in for one heck of a ride with a trunkful of AR-15s, even if he could prove he was coming from the range... It's just the nature of our society these days to label anything we don't like with "terrorist" and use that word to trample on basic rights.
by cb1000rider
Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:34 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: TSA at Amtrak Austin
Replies: 46
Views: 15096

Re: TSA at Amtrak Austin

philip964 wrote: Small world. Didn't know about any trespassing or any warnings. I may have received a sanitized version from his best friend.
Phil,
I don't know him. I just know that law enforcement doesn't usually arrest people for doing things that are legal. When they do stuff like that, they arrest for something that is on the books and sprinkle a little made up charge in there verbally... I took the time to look it up. I couldn't find the outcome of his charge.. My guess was that it was a wash. The PD was within their rights to legally arrest him, but there is no way he could have known from entry to the area that it was posted. He simply irritated someone in authority off.

Of course, pre-Hurricane New Orleans law enforcement has a sterling reputation, right?


Reminds me of the guy from Temple that got arrested for "rudely displaying" an AR-15. Yea, that's what they actually told me him was being stopped, detained, and eventually arrested for. At the station, the charges change..
by cb1000rider
Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:51 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: TSA at Amtrak Austin
Replies: 46
Views: 15096

Re: TSA at Amtrak Austin

philip964 wrote:Since we are talking about Amtrak, I will relate a story of an acquaintance.
Story snipped..
You're speaking of James Bourgeois:
But the bottom line is that he wasn't arrested for taking photos. He was arrested for trespassing... Of course, the area that he was trespassing in wasn't posted from the terminal where he got off.

Mr. Bourgeois was warned that he was trespassing and then arrested when he suggested that Amtrak was publically funded.

Sounds like a POP arrest to me, but the fact is that he was arrested for trespassing, not taking photos. The only thing I can see in dispute was if the PD can arrest in an area that isn't properly posted.

It's no different than getting arrested in an area like a mall, where the front entrance has 30.06 signs and you choose to come in one of the side entrances.

Amtrak has arrested people in NY for similar (harmless) activities...

Still, as a pilot,I'll take Amtrak over the TSA any day.

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