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by cb1000rider
Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:22 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: concealed means concealed?
Replies: 50
Views: 7900

Re: concealed means concealed?

bdickens wrote:In the history of CHL in Texas, it has happened one time that I'm aware of and the guy ended up getting off. The story is detailed somewhere on these pages. Someone will find it.
Handdog. I don't consider $25000 in legal costs "getting off". Most likely it would have been much less expensive if he had just paid it or pleaded it down.
Reminder: the officer that arrested him indicated that the failure was intentional.

That's the only case we've got documented on here. I'm sure we've got some attorneys that could provide us Lexus Nexus examples.. and Maybe a few Leos that could look up similar charges.

That's the only one we know of that has gone end to end court...

It's a problem. It's a problem that I hope SB299 will help with.
by cb1000rider
Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:40 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: concealed means concealed?
Replies: 50
Views: 7900

Re: concealed means concealed?

glock27 wrote:I would carry everywhere imho. If im not supposed to and I need to use my weapon then ill deal with them consequences later. But ill be alive to deal with them... not a dead fish cause I wanted to follow a silly posting on a door.
Curious, why get a CHL in the first place?

Just off the top of your head - what do you think has a better chance of happening: You get spotted with a firearm? You run into a situation where you need to use a firearm?
by cb1000rider
Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:37 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: concealed means concealed?
Replies: 50
Views: 7900

Re: concealed means concealed?

Cletus wrote:Every man has to decide for himself if he thinks state law overrides the Bill of Rights.
I'm pretty sure that the 2nd amendment wasn't meant to be limited as Texas has limited it. Certainly not as Illinois has limited it.
Regardless, the decision to ignore state laws in regard to where you can legally carry is an entirely different decision that is fraught with personal peril.

IMHO, the founding fathers granted the 2nd amendment as a way for the masses to be able to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. No way they could see more than 200 years into the future.
Having a gun, or even lots and lots of guns, hardly protects us from the types of intrusions that our Federal government is involved in. Nor does it provide us enough military might to stand up to a country with modern weapons. The US government doesn't kill most people gun to gun anymore.. They do it from thousands of miles away on a computer screen. Still.. I'm glad we have that 2nd amendment, even if it's shrunken.

As a country we need to decide if we're going accept a bit of risk or if we're willing to give up many freedoms in exchange for risk reduction. Right now, we're busy giving up freedoms. You don't get both...
by cb1000rider
Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:21 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: concealed means concealed?
Replies: 50
Views: 7900

Re: concealed means concealed?

oohrah wrote:I'm a noob at this, but I have gleaned from the wiser folks on this forum, that when you carry beyond an illegal 30.06 or gun buster sign, that you keep quiet and do not debate with the establishment, and do not let anyone know you are carrying, since some folks might not know the law, and might report you. i.e, how would they know you are ignoring their sign, if concealed means concealed.

That's how I take it too. If you want to carry and you think you're legal, carry away. If it's concealed, you're not getting in any trouble.

Exercising your 2nd amendment rights is best done in another manner. Hopefully with lots of cameras backing your legal right to carry.

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