There is enforcement in Dallas county, but it can get pretty sparse. We're talking about motorcycles that can hit 60 mph in under 2 seconds and have top speeds (even limited) approaching 180mph. You cannot catch them in a patrol car short of an accident or deploying enough resources to do a road block if they decide they don't want to stop. I think the enforcement may be a bit more selective due to pursuit policy and public risk, but I'm just guessing... They're most likely going to kill themselves.
Speeding is a different ball of wax than actively assaulting a vehicle when you've got a big numbers advantage and you're not being threatened.
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- Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:25 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Disparity of force (Motorcycle Gang Incident in New York)
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- Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:08 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Disparity of force (Motorcycle Gang Incident in New York)
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Re: Disparity of force (Motorcycle Gang Incident in New York
As a biker, I'm sorry that you've had that experience. I've found bikers as a whole to be pretty gregarious and nice guys that can look a bit intimidating. Of course, that's usually meeting them as a biker.AlaskanInTexas wrote: Based on my personal experience, the bad element is closer to 75%, not 1%. That said, my experience as of late has been pretty much limited to driving 75 in Dallas after 9pm - not necessarily a good sample. This is not a gut reaction either. I was involved in the rather heated motorcycle post several months back, and since then have been keeping track in my head of the number of safe v. crazy bikers I encounter.
That "gang" that was riding sport bikes - and hey, I rode sportbikes for years.. But running Go-Pro cameras, passengers with marginal (if any) safety gear, and they're definitely out there to show off in traffic - these aren't the guys that I'm talking about. I think they're something different than lifetime motorcycle riders.
It's dangerous being on a motorcycle. And without exception someone in a "cage" (enclosed vehicle) will eventually endanger you. Most of the time it's due to being non-situationally aware. Those incidents carry a high risk of personal injury. I know that I've gotten hot headed at least once in my past and reacted badly. However, a swarm of 30+ bikes breaking all sorts of traffic laws is a different beast... They were doing the harassing taking up that many lanes in that traffic pattern. There is no excuse for that behavior and they certainly weren't riding defensively.
75% being bad? No way.
- Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:24 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Disparity of force (Motorcycle Gang Incident in New York)
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Re: Disparity of force (Motorcycle Gang Incident in New York
Witness, I guess.