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BigBangSmallBucks wrote:

ryanj wrote:

BigBangSmallBucks wrote:

ryanj wrote:

BigBangSmallBucks wrote:
If a Non-TSA lock is used TSA has the authority to cut it, if you use a TSA lock and something came up missing you'd know exactly who did it. For that very reason I wouldn't think a theft by a TSA agent would be likely.

Under federal law they can't cut a lock if it has a declared firearm in it.

The TSA master keys are floating out there. Even without the key, TSA locks are usually pretty flimsy and easy to pick. I have never had a brass padlock cut by TSA or anyone else. There was a presentation at Defcon (hacker conference) a couple of years ago about flying with firearms and how it allows you to lock your suitcase with a real lock.

Please see the 2nd post from the top of page 2 thanks.

Sure, you CAN do that, but why would you?

I thought one of the benefits of flying with a firearm is to keep real locks on your luggage.

The TSA lock is as good as no lock at all.

Please post one link from a .gov website that says checked baggage that has a non-TSA lock can NOT be cut by the TSA if it contains a separate locked gun case inside. Just to clarify I'm not talking about a very large gun case that is also being used to transfer other personal items. You can't speak something as fact if you have no proof to back it up.

ryanj wrote:

BigBangSmallBucks wrote:

ryanj wrote:

BigBangSmallBucks wrote:
If a Non-TSA lock is used TSA has the authority to cut it, if you use a TSA lock and something came up missing you'd know exactly who did it. For that very reason I wouldn't think a theft by a TSA agent would be likely.

Under federal law they can't cut a lock if it has a declared firearm in it.

The TSA master keys are floating out there. Even without the key, TSA locks are usually pretty flimsy and easy to pick. I have never had a brass padlock cut by TSA or anyone else. There was a presentation at Defcon (hacker conference) a couple of years ago about flying with firearms and how it allows you to lock your suitcase with a real lock.

Please see the 2nd post from the top of page 2 thanks.

Sure, you CAN do that, but why would you?

I thought one of the benefits of flying with a firearm is to keep real locks on your luggage.

The TSA lock is as good as no lock at all.

Vol Texan wrote:

BigBangSmallBucks wrote:

them wrote:

BigBangSmallBucks wrote: If a Non-TSA lock is used TSA has the authority to cut it, . . .

That's not 100% correct.

If it is a hard-sided case with a declared firearm they do not have that authority.

My comment was in reference to a Non-TSA lock being placed on luggage not on the gun case, I even put the forum member's own words in bold to illustrate that. I had a flight earlier this month and used a TSA lock on my luggage but used a regular Non-TSA masterlock on my gun case.

Mine were the words you bolded, but I don't understand if your comment was supporting or challenging my method of securing a checked firearm. My words were:

VolTexan wrote:That being said, I travel with mine often. Pistol is usually in a locked NanoVault inside my suitcase. The suitcase has a TSA lock, but the NanoVault is a combination lock, so they cannot open without a bit of work. Ammo is kept outside of the gun in original factory box. Next month, I'm bringing a Pelican 1700 with my daughter's rifle, my carry pistol, and my wife's carry pistol. We're connecting through Chicago, but won't touch the case until we arrive in the Carolinas.

I think you and I are in agreement here, but you may have thought I was saying that used a non-TSA lock on the suitcase. Rather I was saying the opposite: When flying with a checked handgun, I put it in a NanoVault (not accessible by TSA), and then put the NanoVault inside my TSA locked soft sided luggage (accessible by TSA). When using the Pelican, it will be locked with several Master Locks (not accessible by TSA).

ryanj wrote:

BigBangSmallBucks wrote:
If a Non-TSA lock is used TSA has the authority to cut it, if you use a TSA lock and something came up missing you'd know exactly who did it. For that very reason I wouldn't think a theft by a TSA agent would be likely.

Under federal law they can't cut a lock if it has a declared firearm in it.

The TSA master keys are floating out there. Even without the key, TSA locks are usually pretty flimsy and easy to pick. I have never had a brass padlock cut by TSA or anyone else. There was a presentation at Defcon (hacker conference) a couple of years ago about flying with firearms and how it allows you to lock your suitcase with a real lock.

them wrote:

BigBangSmallBucks wrote: If a Non-TSA lock is used TSA has the authority to cut it, . . .

That's not 100% correct.

If it is a hard-sided case with a declared firearm they do not have that authority.

SAK wrote:I have flown on Southwest twice recently with a locked pelican case inside a suitcase. Put TSA locks on the suitcase & both times when I arrived at destination, the TSA lock is missing. Everything else is still in the bag. Not sure why they take my locks, but if it happens again I will be asking someone from Southwest.

I interpret SWA rules as allowing loaded magazines in the case as long as they are separate form the pistol. They have never asked me to open the case & inspect the weapon though.

ryanj wrote:

Vol Texan wrote: That being said, I travel with mine often. Pistol is usually in a locked NanoVault inside my suitcase. The suitcase has a TSA lock, but the NanoVault is a combination lock, so they cannot open without a bit of work. Ammo is kept outside of the gun in original factory box. Next month, I'm bringing a Pelican 1700 with my daughter's rifle, my carry pistol, and my wife's carry pistol. We're connecting through Chicago, but won't touch the case until we arrive in the Carolinas.

Yeah, I don't know if I like that idea. Delta airlines tell me that if I do that I have to use a conditional acceptance tag.

I'd rather put the case in and lock the whole suitcase with a regular brass padlock. It means I have to wait on TSA to screen the bag but that's actually good as it decreases the chances of theft as well.