Yeah, most of the guys I know that were fortunate enough to carry a sidearm in combat (which is pretty much restricted to SNCOs and Officers now.) preferred 9MM.. they carried SIG 226's and hell I even saw New Zealanders with G19's.G26ster wrote:I think the comparison of military use and civilian self defense use of the .45 pistol is quite different. When it comes to to the "effectiveness" of the .45 in combat, in 1941 the U.S. Army R&D section had a pretty dim view of the .45 after WWI (which was an up close and personal war) when they published the following:Trilogy wrote:I believe that the popularity of the .45acp comes from the old military issued firearms. I talk to the guys at my local VFW hall regularly and .45 is still the preferred caliber for most vets. I prefer the combination of the ballistics and magazine capacity of he .40 s&w. On average, 92% of the power of the .45 but twice the magazine capacity. If the need to use my carry gun presents itself, nothing like a few extra rounds to make sure I don't have to reload.
“This weapon (the M1911) was primarily for defensive purposes since its effective range is limited to not more than 25 yards, except when handled by an expert. Its ineffectiveness was well proven by the amazingly small number of casualties it inflicted upon enemy troops during WWI as revealed by post-war inspection of German casualty lists and hospital records.”
Now again, I believe most civilian self defense encounters occur well within 25 yards, and the statement above might not apply. But the statement illustrates that pistols in military combat (at least in WWI) didn't inflict a whole lot of damage, regardless of caliber. If I were in combat again, my vote would be for a pistol that was the most accurate, with an acceptable caliber and capacity, not just caliber alone. The 1911s I carried in the military were usually old, worn, rattled, and far from the accuracy of modern 1911s. Your experience, and the vets at the VFW might be different though. Just MHO.
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- Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:16 pm
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- Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:15 am
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jmra wrote:nyj wrote:Nice to see the 9mm love.means more .40 on the shelf for me.


- Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:17 am
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I'm trying to get her into it now, she has gone shooting with me several times and enjoyed it, her family likes guns and all they just prefer fishing. Haha that does sound great!krieghoff wrote:Give it a try Trakinpat. Ya never know, she might like it and then you might have a shooting partner. Years ago in my younger days, I did just that. As time progressed, she took up shotguns and had a blast at it. Many times when I was out of town and returned, she would have loaded several buckets of 12 gauge AA's for me. Those were the days!!
- Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:19 pm
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It really isn't that complicated. I started 50 years ago with shotgun and within 6 months was doing pistol and rifle as well. It a form of relaxation to me along with the means to shoot more!! There are several good starter kits available to chose from. You can invest in one of them and go from there.krieghoff wrote:[quote I really want to get into reloading, I have a few books on it but it is so darn complicated to just READ, I am a visual learner so I need to see it done many times to grasp, theory is great, but practice makes perfect.

It does sound relaxing, I enjoy cleaning my firearms so why not make my own rounds? I figure I will ask my girlfriend for Christmas to get me one.

- Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:11 pm
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Lots of time on our hands?JKTex wrote:I"m always curious and usually don't get an answer, what is the point of a poll like this? I'd bet 90% of us could have told you the top 3, in order, but it seems somewhat irrelevant.

- Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:28 pm
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I really want to get into reloading, I have a few books on it but it is so darn complicated to just READ, I am a visual learner so I need to see it done many times to grasp, theory is great, but practice makes perfect.ghostrider wrote:good reputation. Used by many police depts.Why does everyone like Gold Dot so much? I'm not bashing it, I genuinely don't know.
Unlike some 'premium' JHPs, these are available (well, not right now, but someday again) as reloading components, so in theory those of us who reload can duplicate the factory loads for a cheaper practice load.
- Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:13 am
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Why does everyone like Gold Dot so much? I'm not bashing it, I genuinely don't know.SpringerFan wrote:XDSC9, stuffed with 14 rounds of +p Gold Dot goodness.
- Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:53 am
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Ahhhh, what is IN your rotation?jmra wrote:.40 has always been my goto and is again now that the XDs 45 is out of the rotation.TrackinPat wrote:.40 all day! :)
I would however like to get a 9mm and a .45 as alternate carries some day.
- Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:58 am
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.40 all day! :)
I would however like to get a 9mm and a .45 as alternate carries some day.
I would however like to get a 9mm and a .45 as alternate carries some day.