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Simply put, the way groups like the Brady Bunch and their kind want to "solve" this problem is to eliminate private sales, ban "Assault Weapons". Of course that will still leave weapons available (Like that 22 short that was mentioned) so they will also need to be banned. Eventually confiscation will have to happen and then weapons will have to be smuggled into both countries so their criminals can be armed.

Sodbuster wrote:

Rex B wrote:I wonder if they have traced any of these guns that are going south from the U.S., to determine exactly how they are getting them.
As for full auto, I suspect they could be buying Semi-auto ARs and converting them in Mexico. Plenty of Mexican machinists able to do the work.

The report I heard was on the local radio news; no pics of hooded thugs toting automatic weapons nor any geopolitical spin on the story. The crux of the report encompassed every concievable type of weapon, not just bunker busters and 50 cals. Many of these murders are execution style, a bullet to the brain from as common a 9 mm or .380 as we all sell and trade here and there. How about we get off the kick of blaming criminals, governments, and insufficient laws in the interest of noting that any one of us that's passed on a firearm via this site or any other may have once owned a handgun that just snuffed out one of those innocent lives. I simply asked for folks to take an extra measure of caution selling things these days so as to reduce the risk that you or yours isn't the next victim. Thanks.

I ensure that anyone who buys an item from me is legal to own it, If I have reason to believe they are not going to use it legally or sell it legally then I will not sell to them. I can safely bet that just about everyone on this forum does the same, gun stores are required by law to do this also. The crux of the matter is that criminals will get the guns, our laws and Mexico's laws will not stop that, what will make a difference is letting the innocent defend themselves. Also, please forgive me for blaming the poor little innocent criminals. I will not give up my rights because they make some criminals job safer in my own country, and I sure as heck won't do so in order to make their job safer in some other country.

Its really a matter of the media trying to make people think class 3 (Full auto) weapons are readily available on the street. I assure you there is not 1 class 3 dealer selling full auto weapons to the average Joe who just walks in off the street so that he can take it to Mexico. They may be buying AR15s and semi-auto only AK clones then taking them to Mexico, but those are not the weapons being portrayed by the media. The media may refer to them but every news story I have seen shows a full auto weapon. This is just like when the Clinton AWB was passed, the media would say "Assault weapon" and show a full auto weapon being fired. There was not 1 class 3 weapon banned under the Clinton AWB. The problem in Mexico is that it proves gun control doesn't work: The cops have guns, the criminals have guns smuggled in illegally, and most importantly the innocent civilians who are terrorized, raped, and murdered do not have an effective means of defending themselves.

I have yet to see a Texas gun shop that sells full auto weapon, grenades, ect. to just anybody as these news reports claim/insinuate. I know there are class 3 dealers, but none of them can/will sell a class 3 weapon to someone off the street as its a very involved federal process. I would also like to point out if a dealer has any common sense he is already doing what he can to avoid sales to people trying to make straw purchases. The way stop the flow of guns into Mexico is not to infringe on our rights further, it is instead to increase border security.