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ScooterSissy wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:I have read every post on this thread and contributed several.

No one here has judged the OP. He received a General discharge. No one has denigrated him for his service. No one has placed their service above his.

The DPS requires an Honorable to receive the Veteran designation on a CHL.

It does not matter what the VA, VFW, or American Legion (I am a member) say. They do not determine what the DPS does. The Texas legislature passed the law.

Sorry, but that's not what the rules state. They require only that the applicant be "honorably discharged" (I know that may sound picky, but there is a difference).
The OP indicated several posts back that the DPS now accepts "general under honorable" as "honorably discharged".

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Veteran (Honorably Discharged)
Individuals honorably discharged from military service

(The emphasis on "honorably" is theirs)

The point I've tried to make several times now, is that it appears that "honorably" is a description, not an official designation.

I've not been able to find anything online that confirms this specific to a CHL, but I'll point out the following.

On the DPS web site (the DPS is the agency that handles CHL), they have a "Veteran Services" page. (http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/driverlice ... rvices.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) That page also uses the term "honorably discharged"; however, they specifically address what qualifies as "honorably discharge". Please note the portion that is in bold:

Veterans must visit a driver license office and present their DD-214, DD-215, NGB-22, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs disability letter, or U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs Proof of Service/Verification of Honorable Service Card. The document can be a copy or an original, but it must show that the veteran received an honorable discharge or a general discharge (under honorable conditions). The veteran must provide a written request for the designation.

This is for the benefit of receiving a driver's license without paying a fee. In this case, the DPS specifically says that a general under honorable conditions qualifies as "honorably discharged" (the term is used in the paragraph immediately before the one shown).

I think this makes it pretty clear that the DPS intended to include those who received a "general discharge under honorable conditions" as "honorably discharged".

BTW, I wasn't aware that vets could get a free driver's license. I'll likely avail myself of that benefit as well.

ScooterSissy wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:Putting a rock in an oven doesn't make it a biscuit.

Calling a general discharge an honorable discharge does not make it so.

Again, no one here has said that, or made that claim.

Does the general description of "honorably discharged" (not an official designation, but a description) fit both of the following:

Honorable

General under honorable conditions

By their very specific designation that includes the word "honorable", I'd say that they fit the description.

No, were the "rules" for the CHL meant to be only for an "Honorable Discharge", or was the term "honorably discharged" meant as a description. If it was the former, wonder why they didn't use the official terminology?