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boredelmo wrote: It's great for you to live by the laws and not worry about any sort of mishandling or flaws by the government, but i for one do not have such faith. I live by the laws, and then some.

Who said anything about having faith? Faith in the government to do right? I don't think so (even though the cops do "do right" the great majority of the time).

Nope. The reason I don't worry about the government doing me wrong has nothing to do with faith. Rather, it's because I lay full claim to my legal rights and am willing to fight for them if necessary.

seamusTX wrote:

frankie_the_yankee wrote:And I am not aware of people getting convicted of failure to conceal merely because they were printing.

Try this.

The guy wasn't convicted of anything, but he was arrested and charged, and had to hire a lawyer to get him out of trouble.

Of course, aside from being shot by the police, that's about as bad as it gets, and it was a long time ago.

- Jim

I won't go around worrying about what some cop afflicted with poor judgement might do. I do my best to follow the law. If what I'm doing is legal, I'm not going to worry about it.

That's been my policy for a long time and so far so good.

There's something that bugs me about the idea of avoiding doing something because a cop may incorrectly arrest and charge me. Life is too short to worry about things like that.

So if I happen to print I print. If some Daffy Duck cop arrests me for it, we'll all go to court and straighten it out.

Just my $0.02.

boredelmo wrote: The thing about whether or not it is "breeching of the law" is that its up to the cop.

Nope. Cops don't make the law and are not the final authority on whether or not any given act is a violation of the law.

Those matters are the perview of "juries".

boredelmo wrote: Depends on where you are (city) and what youre doing.

Nope. The law is what it is no matter where you are.

boredelmo wrote: I can definitely see a situation where someone would get in trouble for unintentionally printing.

Cops can arrest you for pretty much anything and let the court sort it out.

Yes, a cop can arrest you if he believes that the legal requirements for an arrest have been met.

But as you say yourself, it is then up to the courts to "sort it out", i.e. to determine whether or not you broke the law.

And I am not aware of people getting convicted of failure to conceal merely because they were printing.

Are you ? (specific cases please)

oldboyshooter wrote:My CHL instructor told us that if the weapon even patterned through a coat you were in violation.

I guess the rules have changed, or he was incorrect.

Your instructor missed his calling. He would achieve much more personal fulfillment as a philosopher.

Communicating correct information and facts to a group of people is no where near as exciting as giving them (actually charging them for) the opportunity to bask in whatever happens to pour out of his mouth on a given day.

It's no wonder he seems to favor the latter.