They shouldn't.Scott Farkus wrote:I can't speak to what authority an LEO does or does not have to disarm in your home, but for purposes of the discussion in this thread, we're specifically talking about commercial property, not someone's home. Neither I nor I dare say anyone who advocates my side of this argument would support a law forcing licensed concealed carriers to carry into someone's home (or private non-commercial land) land against the homeowner's wishes. But the rules change when you open your doors to commerce.DonFromTexas wrote:I have trouble understanding all this as well. From reading this then if an armed police officer comes to your door, you can tell him o buzz off and only come back after he has disarmed himself. That don't seem right either.
I think I disagree with the idea presented that the constitution ONLY applies to the government.
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- Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:25 pm
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- Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:24 pm
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As has been said elsewhere, we do not have a right to even be on another's property, much less decide in what condition we will do so.tiger1279 wrote:This thread has been interesting and informative. I figured it would since most people are pretty passionate when it comes to rights. The comments seem to boil down to this: my Constitutional rights are guaranteed only when I'm in a public place. Step onto private property, be it a business or somebody's land, and I'm subject to the whelms and attitudes of the owner/manager. I guess that's just the way it is. It's not only the 2nd amend that is relevant here, the 1st amend is also involved. There is a statement in my apartment lease that says I can be evicted if I make a derogatory remark about the management. So free speech is out too. I don't like that, but then management's attitude is if i don't like it I can move. So there you have it. Thanks for your comments, guys, I stand "educated".
- Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:22 pm
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That's the right answer.cyphertext wrote:Simple answer is because the constitution limits the powers of government. In the instance of the signs, the government is not restricting your right (unless posted improperly on gov. property), the signs are just a legal notification that the property owner does not want you to carry there.
"Constitutional rights" is a misnomer. They are Constitutionally recognized rights. My rights don't come from the Constitution, the prohibitions and limitations on the government do.
Of course the 2nd has long been infringed upon, as have others.
In my mind, the interstate commerce clause is one of the most abused writings in history.
We have already compromised. It's time to get back to The Law.