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Oh...BTW...I did replace the headlight last wed. so I dont have to worry wasting the time of our fine LEOs.

my preferred procedure is to pull over immediately rather than forcing him to catch up and pull me over.

if I know that the odds are high that I am the one getting pulled over, I am usually stopped and in park before the cop car is even stopped.

Excaliber wrote:

I dont want the LEO to get nervous seeing me move around.

For that exact reason, I don't reach for anything. I keep my hands at about 11:00 and 1:00 on the wheel and wait until I've had a conversation with the officer and he / she and I are both comfortable with what I need to do next. I don't want him or her getting nervous about whether I'm reaching for my wallet, or a weapon, or trying to hide contraband, etc.

This procedure works well enough that I've had LEO's thank me for my courtesy at the end of the stop.

Let me explain further......

You are driving down the road...LEO is driving toward you....he either hits his lights as you pass each other then he does a u-turn or does u-turn then hits lights.....or LEO is on the side of road running radar.....as you pass you see LEO get in car and hit lights....in both cases LEO will be a good distance behind you and cant see anything you are doing inside the car.....those are times I will have IDs ready when LEO gets to my car......

If there is ANY possibility of LEO seeing me reach for ANYTHING.....I will wait till I get instructions from LEO.

This is how I have always done things....even looong before I carried. I have always shown great respect to LEO....while dealing with them doing their job or just in passing at the local "Stop 'n Rob.

That is very good advise......but I have one of those long wallets on a chain therefor it sticks out of the top of my pocket. As soon as I see the lights I pull my wallet out and at the least have it on my console in plain sight. If I have time I will have both IDs in hand waiting for the LEO. This only if the LEO is NOT already on my tail. Such as.....I see him bust a U-ee in behind me....with or without lights on. I dont want the LEO to get nervous seeing me move around. If LEO is already on my tail when I see him/her, I will wait till LEO asks for my ID and then inform them about my CHL and status of weapon in vehicle and ask for instructions.

^^^^^^YEAH...what Boomerangsaid^^^^^^lol

machinisttx wrote:

He was very polite and never asked if I was armed.

Unless you were not armed, you are required to inform the officer that you have a handgun.

The way it has been told many many times......

IF you are armed you must show your CHL to the officer when you are asked for ID. I havnt read anywhere that you are supposed to tell him you are armed. I didnt tell the first LEO I was armed, I just gave him my CHL. No problems there.

Someone (CHL instructor or LEO) correct me if I am wrong.

Yes I should be there.....and if my headlight is out on my Harley, I WILL NOT ride it DAY or NIGHT. When I am on my bike, that is the one time i want EVERYONE looking at ME.....that way they SEE me.....and hopefully dont hit me.

Excaliber wrote:

Both GREAT stops

These were very professionally handled on both sides. Kudos to all involved.

Do get the headlight fixed pronto, though. Besides safety, it's a matter of respect for both the law and the officers. If one of the same officers who stopped you sees you with the same light out in a couple of days, he's likely to take a dim (sorry!) view of it and you'll likely receive a souvenier.

The way LEO's look at it, good guys take the courteous advice, get the message, and get it fixed. Doing so also helps preserve the "presumed good guy" status of CHL holders for others.

Very much understood. Fortunatly I rarely go thru Westworth and It is even more rare that I go anywhere near the Stockyards so the chances of me seeing either of the same LEO at night (before I get it fixed) are almost nonexistent.

And yes....Westworth LEO does have a rather strong reputation of giving Driving Awards to the fullest extent. I suspect had I been speeding, I would have received a ticket. However, being just headlight and me informing the Officer that I had already been pulled over (and didnt just try to play dumb), I am not surprized I got away with a verbal warning.

I will say again that BOTH LEOs were very professional and very easy going.

I replaced the other one about 2 months ago......I will be replacing this one on payday.

......the first time I got to present my CHL.

My GF and I were on our way out with some friends. We are about 2 blks from our destination and get pulled over for a headlight out.
I pull over, window down, dome light on, DL and CHL in hand. Ft Worth LEO asks for ID and Ins. Hands Ins back and runs my DL. Comes back, tells me to get it fixed and have a great day. I thank him and wish him a safe evening.
He was very polite and never asked if I was armed.

Round 2 on our way home......
Driving thru Westworth Village.....two LEOs in the median.....Lights come on and pull over.
I go thru the process......LEO asked if I was armed...I said yes...one in console and one in rear pocket....He informs me of my headlight...I told him I was pulled over earlier for it......He chuckled and went to run my info...comes back....wished me a safe night and I wish him the same.
Even at 2:30am he didnt ask if I had been drinking.....(even tho I wasnt)
Once again, very polite..........

Both GREAT stops