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austin wrote:At close range, that slug will destroy someone even if it hits an arm or leg. It will always penetrate most cover. At longer ranges, it will still retain its punch.

Well, anything larger then #1 buck is going to reliably penetrate 12 inches so i wouldn't worry about the effectiveness of buckshot.

austin wrote:The excuse that the pellets will not penetrate walls and thus are safer is an arguement that pellets are not as effective as slugs in the first place and an arguement that you do not plan to aim your shots.

Also, any pellets large enough to stop an attacker are going to go through many layers of drywall.

austin wrote:Slugs are devastating projectiles and I have hunted with them and used them as BUG for guided hunts for a long time and have never been dissapointed even if I was dissapointed with my aim.

I believe that the greater cross sectional area of a buckshot load and the tendency of slugs to over penetrate and waste energy makes buckshot the better self defense choice. A slug certainly wouldn't be underpowered though so if thats your preference i wont argue to much with you.

stevie_d_64 wrote:I only count 8 distinctive holes outside that big jagged one on the target there...

If anything, that certainly is a telling illustration

Thats 1 shot of #4 Buck, i stole the image from Box O' Truth.

I thought that this forum would be the last place i would have to explain that shotguns do not create 10ft wide cones of death within spitting distance of the barrel.

This is 12 ft.