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by gljjt
Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: NOW Live Stream Williamson County leaders to answer gun law questions
Replies: 57
Views: 8566

Re: NOW Live Stream Williamson County leaders to answer gun law questions

stingeragent wrote:I definitely agree with you. Unless they post their policy somewhere there is 100% no way to know. A waiter could have been informed by the owner to tell open carriers to leave. That would be justified. At the same time though, you may have a waiter that is a member of MDA that sees your gun and tells you to leave even though the owner is pro gun which is why they aren't posted 30.07. Ultimately though none of it matters. I think the vast majority of stores have the policy regardless of if you have a gun or not, if they ask you to leave the premises, you are required to. The whole we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. I for one am not gonna stay and argue, carrying or not, either way.

Edit: I honestly think it would be better if there was no oral notice. Should be you post the signs or you don't. That would get rid of the gray area in that aspect of it. A lot of this is just blown out of proportion a bit though I think. I would "assume" in most instances, if this issue came up the waiter, or whoever would go notify their manager who would then deal with it.
Ok, I missed the waiter and manager disagreement part. The waiter doesn't over rule the manager. But if the manager supports the waiter, get ready for a ride...
by gljjt
Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:50 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: NOW Live Stream Williamson County leaders to answer gun law questions
Replies: 57
Views: 8566

Re: NOW Live Stream Williamson County leaders to answer gun law questions

stingeragent wrote:I too disagree on the waiter thing. A waiter does not speak for the establishment. It is of my opinion that the authority person is the one making the rules. If the waiter can't say, ok it's time to close down the restaurant for the evening, they can't give you notice to leave. Same thing with a walmart cashier. They don't speak for the overall interests of the store. That is what managers are for.
I think the establishment decides who has authority. If the owner/franchisee/manager tell the waiters to give oral notice to those who OC, I'd say failure to comply = ride in the police car. You refer to the 'authority person'. I don't think that has to be singular.

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