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The more I hear about this, the more I think that drug might have had something to do with it. I know it says "no drinking" but so do a lot of drugs. It was a poor choice on his part, but if he really has no violent history and freaked out, it sounds very strange. I can also see him going to the bar and think "just one drink." Well, that can lead to a few more. The woman said the drug was causing them both to have "hallucinatory dreams."

People do freak out on alcohol, but I've never heard of anything like this. Especially the part where he goes to a neighbor's house and tries to break in. It sounds like he had no history with that neighbor since he didn't live there, it was his girlfriend's house.

I'm planning to stop smoking soon...I think I'll stick with the nicotine gum.

Hamourkiller wrote:He was "kicking in" the door, that is not banging on the door. I would have fired under the same circumstances.

Not only that, he was in a "drunken rage" after beating up his girlfriend. Not that the homeowner knew that, but I'm sure it wasn't a polite knock on the back door for some sympathy at four am.

Venus Pax wrote:

texas297 wrote:
From what I gather, this was just a tragic mistake by all parties.

I'm not so convinced that the homeowner made a mistake. If someone is trying to bust down my door (be it front or back), I'm going to wonder who and what are on the other side. My guess would be that he wasn't there for refreshments (see signature line).

If someone came over to my house for some of my famous Lynchburg Lemonade or Mint Juleps then they would knock on the FRONT door and not try to kick it down. Well, those mint juleps taste pretty good, so you never know. :)

I'd also be wondering how many people are on the other side of the door. My front door has a peep hole where I could look out and see. I might not look if someone was kicking it though. My back door does not have a peep hole. So you have to wonder...if they get that door open, am I going to have to mow down three people? Is it easier just to fire a shot through the door and hopefully they'll run away? What if they get the door open and my gun jams? At least if I try firing first and it doesn't work, I can always go get another gun... Of course yelling a stern warning to "GO AWAY" is the first thing I would do. If they didn't then it's their fault they got shot.

The more I hear about this, the more on the side of the homeowner I am. I was on his side from the beginning, but with more facts coming out...

It was 4am for one thing. So the middle of the night when most people are asleep. The guy was kicking the BACK door. If it was the front door then I could see a bit more restraint, but I've heard of a lot of BG's coming through the back door. He did warn the guy to go away or whatever.

This guy had obviously lost his mind and it's unfortunate. I'm wondering if the smoking cessation drug, mixed with alcohol had anything to do with it. Regardless, it's not the homeowner's fault that someone's trying to kick the back door in at 4am no matter what the circumstances are. I know that neighborhood and while it's very nice, it's surrounded by some pretty shady apartment complexes (full of sex offenders) and scummy areas. Who knows who could be walking down the street and decide to pick your house to break into.

I can tell you this, if someone's trying to kick in my back door at 4am and wouldn't leave after a warning, I might shoot through the door. It wouldn't be a warning shot though, and it would be coming from a high powered rifle. I would call the police if I had time, but if someone is trying to come through the door, I might not wait for them to get it open.

NguyenVanDon wrote:

jbirds1210 wrote:

Paladin wrote:In this situation I would suggest putting a table just inside the doorway. So that when the BG breaks in the door, as they walk in the house they will get temporarly hung up on the table. This will slow the BG down enough to get a good shot.

Just a thought....



I plan to start using one of these bars in hotel rooms. These are not created equal...you get what you pay for.

Where can I purchase one of these at?

I got mine at Lowe's. It goes on my bedroom door when I go to sleep at night.

We used to have a pool customer in Dallas that was a lawyer. He lived in one of those huge old houses not far from Fair Park. So lots of scum walking around and trying to break in, etc. He shot through his front door on two different occasions. Both times someone was trying to break in and after telling them to get off of his property and warning them they would be shot, they continued to try to get in. One time he actually hit one of them. I don't think the crackhead died, unfortunately.