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LucasMcCain wrote:

TheFriscoKid wrote:Lucas - the problem is none of these are 'outliers' anymore. It's not just one more school shooting, it's all of it. The suicides, the mass shootings, the schools, the malls the c&w festivals.... all of them. It's the tide.

I always wonder what the dumbest thing I'll read on the internet will be each day. Congrats, you win today.

There are millions of gun owners in this country. There are hundreds of millions of guns. When the odds of being involved in a shooting of any kind are fractions of a percent, they are outliers. The tide? What are you smoking? Violence and murder have been steadily decreasing, despite the massive increase in media exposure given to the EXTREME OUTLIERS. Despite (or possibly because of) the massive increase in the number of guns, and people carrying guns in this country, fewer people are using them to commit crimes.

I will give up nothing. I will not compromise. You will have to pry my guns out of my cold, dead hands, you gun grabbing liberal pretending to be one of us. Go back to reddit, where you belong.

Quit feeding the troll, guys.

Flightmare wrote:

Soccerdad1995 wrote:

TheFriscoKid wrote:

It is human nature to be lazy and scared. That is what tyrants have counted on all throughout history.

It's not being 'lazy or scared' - it's being strategic.

No one here, no group of people here are capable of winning against the govt. During the revolution it only took a few rifles and a few good men. What is your 5,000 acre hillbilly compound going to do against an army equipped with tanks, blackhawks and warthogs?

It's common sense to live to fight another day. It's also common sense in every day life and in nature.

Although the argument has gotten sidetracked - the main idea is give up worthless concessions like "the mentally ill should have easier access to guns" before much more restrictive regulations are forced upon us.

Throughout history people have been oppressed. And they inevitably are able to overthrow those who oppress them despite facing superior firepower. Humans are capable of accomplishing the seemingly impossible if they are fully committed to the task.

I take no offense at being called a "hillbilly". Although I think you intended offense with your comment. I'll side with "hillbillies" against liberal elites every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

You have stated your point. Most here disagree with you. Why don't you move on and leave us "hillbillies" alone. We will be just fine sitting here bitterly clinging to our guns and our God.

montgomery wrote:The question you have to ask yourself is are you willing to fight and die to keep your firearms?

TheFriscoKid wrote:

jason812 wrote:

TheFriscoKid wrote:
Is everyone here a 'cold dead hands' advocate ?

Yes

Jason, no wife or children ? No other passions or hobbies ? Travel? Anything ?

Really - honestly willing to have a shoot out where the certain result is your death? Regardless of how many you'd take with you ?

bblhd672 wrote:

philip964 wrote:

bblhd672 wrote:

philip964 wrote:

TheFriscoKid wrote:

philip964 wrote:18 years old for bolt action rifle or 2 barrel shotgun.

21 years old for semi automatic handgun, pump shotgun

25 years old semi automatic rifle, automatic shotgun

No bump stocks or other rapid fire devices

50 state plus D.C. CHL license.

No off limits for CHL, except NFL stadiums, and businesses who post.

An idea like this also occurred to me but I haven't yet found any statistics on the avg age of mass shooters.

I also should try to find stats on avg age of all shooters.

I don't think age alone can be a gating factor. I know that a younger version of me was more prone to anger and emotional decisions. I trust myself much more now to stay level headed.

25 is the age that schizophrenia in men is usually already diagnosed. The 18 and 21 is already on the books in Florida, so that's really not a change. I figure there is a lot of cool weapons for a 18-25 year old still to have fun with. Yes a veteran exception, however, honorable only, and the military needs to be honest about why there was a separation. Sorry 18 to 25 your being sacrificed to the Dems to get national chl reciprocity. But 21 to 25 will have the freedom to carry in any state. Worth the wait.

I find that bump stocks are wasteful of ammunition. I'm figuring when I might really need an AR15, I will not want to waste ammunition. Bump stock buy back, no longer available to sell, no confiscation.

We so firmly believe that gun free zones are so dangerous, that everyone is concerned that NFL fans would be at risk if they were kept as gun free. Interesting that is the opposite view of I suspect most Americans. I put that in there as a joke of course we would want to protect NFL fans from mass shootings, even if they do support players who disrespect America.

I think this could get enough Democratic votes to pass. There needs to be just a little on our side to get nationwide reciprocity. We only have a little time till the next election. Needs to happen now. We only have a small window. Can you imagine Nancy Pelosi voting against a ban on bump stocks.

I don't understand why you are willing to compromise with those whose stated goals are to do away with the 2nd Amendment. You want national reciprocity so bad you'll give up other law abiding citizens' rights to keep and bear arms?

I want to keep the right to buy an AR 15. If we don't write the bill, the Dems will, possibly as soon as next January, if not sooner.

They did in 2015, it banned almost any interesting gun you might want to own. I actually used the list as a wish list so to speak, it was so complete.

Had that bill gotten enough Republicans to get on board, Obama would have signed it and the Florida school shooter would not have been able to kill 17 last week.

So in reality, the Democratic bill would have saved those children. He would not have had the chance to kill as many with a bolt action rifle.

Yeah, the FBI not being stupid would have saved them too. But the AR15 ban would have saved those children. No doubt in my mind.

My social media is a blaze with ban the AR15, end the second amendment, kick the GOP out in November.

The GOP needs to get a head of this with their own bill. Now.

So you want the GOP out in front banning firearms? With friends like those, we don't need the enemy on the left.

To paraphrase that great philosopher Jean-Luc Picard: "We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far and no further!"

"We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far and no further!"