Signed.DevilDawg wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:26 pm To bring this back on the topic of POTUS vs Suppressors, here is a link to the petition to stop his advance against them.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... uppressors

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Signed.DevilDawg wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:26 pm To bring this back on the topic of POTUS vs Suppressors, here is a link to the petition to stop his advance against them.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... uppressors
To the extent that we do not enjoy Constitutional Carry in all 50 states, there has clearly been an erosion of rights. This does not take way from the very real efforts made to re-gain, but to deny erosion is simply playing lawyerly semantics.Charles L. Cotton wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:48 pmNice try, but no cigar. Only you and Anygunanywhere are claiming there is an erosion of Second Amendment rights. When asked to list the events that are part of that erosion, each of you could list only one law. Yours dates back to 1934. Erosion is a process, not a single event. More pro-gun bills than anti-gun bills have been passed at the federal level. We've done much better at the state level in many states, but that's just the difference in the makeup of Congress. My point is simply that overstating a problem doesn't help solve it; it simply destroys your credibility.Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:51 pmFIFY. "So your version of a "slow erosion" began in 1934".Charles L. Cotton wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:28 pmSo your version of a "slow erosion" ended in 1934.Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:23 pmNot only did I fill out the forms, pay the $200 tax and wait months to be able to bail my SBR out of the safe at my FFL, but now I need to submit a properly filled out form to the ATF and wait weeks for permission to take my SBR across state lines to attend a training clinic. What part of shall not be infringed am I enjoying right about now?Charles L. Cotton wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:27 pmYou say that "our 2A rights are slowly being eroded, . . ." Please list the specific erosion(s) you mean. Generalizations are easy to state, but I'm interested in the specific laws/restrictions.anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:14 pmAt the rate our 2A rights are slowly being eroded, we are dying a death of 1000 cuts. It is time the other side gets cut. Multiple times. Our side is tired of losing. And don’t even say the word compromise.carlson1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:06 pmBump stocks not worth dying for, suppressors not worth dying for, low round magazines not worth dying for, ammo not worth dying for, carrying a firearm outside your house not worth dying for, etc.... where do we say NO?jason812 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:39 pmThe Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:52 pm They can ban them all they want. It will seriously tick me off, but it won’t stop me from having one if I want one. I know where to buy solvent traps, and I know how to make a suppressor. My son is a very highly qualified machinist. Making our own parts off the books is not a problem....if we have to.![]()
They are not hard to make. Even easier if you have the right tools and know how to use them.![]()
Bump stocks were not a sword to die on, are suppressors?
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FIFY. "So your version of a "slow erosion" began in 1934".Charles L. Cotton wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:28 pmSo your version of a "slow erosion" ended in 1934.Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:23 pmNot only did I fill out the forms, pay the $200 tax and wait months to be able to bail my SBR out of the safe at my FFL, but now I need to submit a properly filled out form to the ATF and wait weeks for permission to take my SBR across state lines to attend a training clinic. What part of shall not be infringed am I enjoying right about now?Charles L. Cotton wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:27 pmYou say that "our 2A rights are slowly being eroded, . . ." Please list the specific erosion(s) you mean. Generalizations are easy to state, but I'm interested in the specific laws/restrictions.anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:14 pmAt the rate our 2A rights are slowly being eroded, we are dying a death of 1000 cuts. It is time the other side gets cut. Multiple times. Our side is tired of losing. And don’t even say the word compromise.carlson1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:06 pmBump stocks not worth dying for, suppressors not worth dying for, low round magazines not worth dying for, ammo not worth dying for, carrying a firearm outside your house not worth dying for, etc.... where do we say NO?jason812 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:39 pmThe Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:52 pm They can ban them all they want. It will seriously tick me off, but it won’t stop me from having one if I want one. I know where to buy solvent traps, and I know how to make a suppressor. My son is a very highly qualified machinist. Making our own parts off the books is not a problem....if we have to.![]()
They are not hard to make. Even easier if you have the right tools and know how to use them.![]()
Bump stocks were not a sword to die on, are suppressors?
Chas.
Chas.
Not only did I fill out the forms, pay the $200 tax and wait months to be able to bail my SBR out of the safe at my FFL, but now I need to submit a properly filled out form to the ATF and wait weeks for permission to take my SBR across state lines to attend a training clinic. What part of shall not be infringed am I enjoying right about now?Charles L. Cotton wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:27 pmYou say that "our 2A rights are slowly being eroded, . . ." Please list the specific erosion(s) you mean. Generalizations are easy to state, but I'm interested in the specific laws/restrictions.anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:14 pmAt the rate our 2A rights are slowly being eroded, we are dying a death of 1000 cuts. It is time the other side gets cut. Multiple times. Our side is tired of losing. And don’t even say the word compromise.carlson1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:06 pmBump stocks not worth dying for, suppressors not worth dying for, low round magazines not worth dying for, ammo not worth dying for, carrying a firearm outside your house not worth dying for, etc.... where do we say NO?jason812 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:39 pmThe Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:52 pm They can ban them all they want. It will seriously tick me off, but it won’t stop me from having one if I want one. I know where to buy solvent traps, and I know how to make a suppressor. My son is a very highly qualified machinist. Making our own parts off the books is not a problem....if we have to.![]()
They are not hard to make. Even easier if you have the right tools and know how to use them.![]()
Bump stocks were not a sword to die on, are suppressors?
Chas.
Now.carlson1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:06 pmBump stocks not worth dying for, suppressors not worth dying for, low round magazines not worth dying for, ammo not worth dying for, carrying a firearm outside your house not worth dying for, etc.... where do we say NO?jason812 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:39 pmThe Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:52 pm They can ban them all they want. It will seriously tick me off, but it won’t stop me from having one if I want one. I know where to buy solvent traps, and I know how to make a suppressor. My son is a very highly qualified machinist. Making our own parts off the books is not a problem....if we have to.![]()
They are not hard to make. Even easier if you have the right tools and know how to use them.![]()
Bump stocks were not a sword to die on, are suppressors?