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by tfrazier
Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:17 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Are you hoarding ammo???
Replies: 27
Views: 3687

Re: Are you hoarding ammo???

Does manufacturing your own count as hoarding?
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I just called Lee Precision. No handles for my Lee commercial six-cavity mold yet. They had supply issues with the shop that made their wooden parts and switched. Hence, no handle sets going out until (maybe) April 9. Guess I'll just keep casting ingots until then.

By the way, anyone else ever lifted and carried a five gallon bucket of wheel weights? I'm guessing around 250 to 300 pounds, and can't believe the wire handle didn't break loose. Took me awhile just to get my shoulder sockets put back together!
by tfrazier
Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:44 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Are you hoarding ammo???
Replies: 27
Views: 3687

Re: Are you hoarding ammo???

TheArmedFarmer wrote: ...mentioned that a lot of people are buying ammo for guns they don't even own...
Yep, I had a guy tell me he was doing exactly that the other day. I asked him why and he said he wanted to be sure he had .380, .40, and .45 in case he ever got one of those caliber guns, plus he figured he could always resale the ammo at a higher price. He was adamant that the current administration and congress will eventually shut the firearms market down by banning ammo or taxing it out of viability.

Even though we should be concerned that their success at such an action is in the realm of possibility, I think he probably bought into the whole disolving bullet theory back in '65 as well.

I'm not sure if you need a type 06 FFL to resale ammo you bought from a retailer for a profit (I know a type 06 is required if you're reloading and selling for a profit), but it's pretty goofy to me to go hoarding ammo you may or may not want in the future even if it is legal to resale it for profit. Not the best investment when you could take all that money and spend it on a gun instead IMO.

Folks are free to spend their money however they want, and this is just something we have to live with in a free market...but a free market is still the best kind to have (although it's under serious attack at the moment). I wonder how many of those folks experiencing the current lack of supply and the high prices with us actually made it to the voting booths last year...hope they're learning their lesson.

I knew the paranoia was going to set in (see http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... earms.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; published 11/18/08) but I just didn't have much spare cash to stock up on ammo back then.
by tfrazier
Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:57 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Are you hoarding ammo???
Replies: 27
Views: 3687

Re: Are you hoarding ammo???

I'm hoarding!

...But I'm not camping at the stores and buying factory ammo. I've churned out all the cast bullets I had on the Dillon and pretty much shot them all up over the last few weekends, and now that I can't find any more cast bullets to buy (1,000 rounds ordered from ReloadsNMore about two weeks ago with a same day email reply saying they are sold out and my order MIGHT be filled in a couple of weeks) I've ordered a full casting pot setup from Lee, including a six cavity mold.

That's supposed to arrive tomorrow. I have an initial stock of nearly 100 lbs of wheel weights, thanks to my brother. This Saturday I'll be casting. I plan to load up until I run out of powder/brass/primers. I have no intention of ever buying factory .45 ACP again as long as I can get my hands on reloading supplies. Even for carry ammo I'll just buy jacketed 230 Gr. hollow point bullets and load 'em myself.

Everything I load is going to be used at the range by me, for me, and If I develop a surplus it will be vacuum packed and stored in the safe until I need it.

Of course, the reloading alternative isn't a perfect solution. It's cheaper cash wise, but if you start figuring in the time you have to put into it...well, savings tend to dwindle some. Then throw in the fact that wheel weights and other casting material is getting hard to come by, and none of it is free anymore; and people are hoarding primers, brass, and powder, too.

With lead being drummed out of the market in favor of green alternatives I'm sure the new casting equipment will be useless within a few years, but I plan on getting as many cycles out of it as I can until then. I'm planning to keep an eye out for old sail boat graveyards to see if I can score one of those big chunks of lead ballast...maybe even find someone with old forklift counter-weights.

Trips to the range are just going to end up being a rich man's game eventually if something doesn't change.

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