U aren't part of John Galt, I think. But what does a fictional character from "Atlas Shrugged" have to do with this thread? Or am I being dense again?kw5kw wrote:hmmm... just one more comment:
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- Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:21 pm
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
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- Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:58 am
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
- Topic: Negative Trooper Encounter
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Re: Negative Trooper Encounter
This OP's story is another example of the State turning a right into a controlled privilege and then using it to execute search and seizure against the will of law abiding citizens.
I HATE having to have a CHL to legally carry a weapon, because it automatically bypasses my protection from unlawful search and seizure. If you have a CHL and your weapon is in your vehicle, they get to enter and search for it whether you agree or not.
Under current CHL laws regarding holder interactions with LEOs, we are at the mercy of the LEO, and all we can do is hope and pray he or she is one of the many good ones, not the rare anti-gun zealot or bad apple.
If you don't have a CHL and you have a weapon in your vehicle, you don't have to tell them, and you can refuse a search and force them to get a warrant.
CHL = less rights, not more rights. You gain a privilege to carry in return for surrender of certain rights.
The cottage industry that has sprung up around CHL training and testing will soon be at odds with grudging CHL holders like myself, who believe we are being forced to register with the state in order to exercise what should be a common right, not just a privilege for those who can afford to pay the state and instructor fees. I envision those who are making a good profit in the CHL training and testing industry lobbying against a non-licensed right to carry concealed.
We must continue to push for the freedom of all citizens to carry concealed without permits or knowledge of the state. I long for the day when I can cut up my CHL and toss it in the grill because I don't need it to legally carry anymore.
I HATE having to have a CHL to legally carry a weapon, because it automatically bypasses my protection from unlawful search and seizure. If you have a CHL and your weapon is in your vehicle, they get to enter and search for it whether you agree or not.
Under current CHL laws regarding holder interactions with LEOs, we are at the mercy of the LEO, and all we can do is hope and pray he or she is one of the many good ones, not the rare anti-gun zealot or bad apple.
If you don't have a CHL and you have a weapon in your vehicle, you don't have to tell them, and you can refuse a search and force them to get a warrant.
CHL = less rights, not more rights. You gain a privilege to carry in return for surrender of certain rights.
The cottage industry that has sprung up around CHL training and testing will soon be at odds with grudging CHL holders like myself, who believe we are being forced to register with the state in order to exercise what should be a common right, not just a privilege for those who can afford to pay the state and instructor fees. I envision those who are making a good profit in the CHL training and testing industry lobbying against a non-licensed right to carry concealed.
We must continue to push for the freedom of all citizens to carry concealed without permits or knowledge of the state. I long for the day when I can cut up my CHL and toss it in the grill because I don't need it to legally carry anymore.