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MaduroBU wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:04 pm Sig P239 in .40 S&W or Sig P232 (prefer the stainless SL, but the aluminum frame is much lighter). For the .40 I use a 200 grain XTP at 900 FPS and for the .380 I use a 115 grain XTP at 1025 FPS (both velocities clocked from my carry guns). I am rather proud of the .380 load as it replicates a weak 9mm from a short barrel with a .380 ACP (though I use a 20 lb Wolff spring in the P232).

How do those 200 gr .40 cal feel? I prefer 180gr over the 165gr but never have tried the 200gr.

Maxwell wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:03 pm
"The PPQsc doesn't use the same trigger as the PPQ. " Please explain (translation: WTH?)

The P99c is a P99 from the tigger guard back. Basically the front half inch or so was chopped off. Magazine are interchangeable and all the firing mechanism parts given both are AS, QA, or DAO.

PPQ M1 shares some parts and dimensions with the P99. Magazines can be interchanged and slides will fit and appear to function but i haven't seen the need to actually test them by firing. Why I think i can use a PPQ sear housing, trigger, and firing pin in a P99c. I can't bring myself to take my 2 apart to see though and need to find a guinea pig.

PPQ M2 slides interchange with M1 and I belive the firing group but not magazines. (Obviously do to the paddle vs button mag releaes).

PPQsc has completely different internals. Magazines will not interchange with anything else, the slides have a different geometry and construction, and the trigger while I have heard is good, does not have the same parts as the PPQ. The thought is Walther tried to reduce the price on the PPQsc. Instead of just making the PPQ shorter like how the P99c is compared to the P99 they chose to change it up. It does however use the same recoil assembly as a PPS M2.

I stalk the Walther forum and have posted less than a dozen times over there. Only when I had a question about my PPQ recoil spring assembly. Those guys are very knowledgeable.

surferdaddy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:52 pm

Maxwell wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:38 pm I have to add to the Walther posts: I carried an M&Pc for over a decade, now I carry a Walther P99c (AS). Firing pin block,very good DA, and the best SA on the market in my opinion. The SA trigger on my P99c is crisper than the trigger on my PPQsc! Now all I want is a full size P99AS to go with it.

Max

You know...I no longer have my ppq to do a proper “side by side” SA trigger test; but my P99 trigger is so close I doubt I could tell the difference.

It is strange to me that the PPQ set the new standard for polymer trigger pull and then came along the cz p10 and a few other improved polymer pistol triggers but somehow the P99 was lost in the shuffle.

Perhaps people were put off by the manual of arms description. I think “Anti stress mode” confused some people and they just didn’t want to complicate things. I never use the AS mode unless at the range. Otherwise the P99 operates just like any other DA SA gun. Walther probably just should have left the half pulled trigger “catch” out if the equation all together. It just may have changed the course of history. We may all have been carrying ultralight weight DA SA guns instead of striker fired. Who knows?

Nice to see there are other Walther fans on here.

Walther did a very, very poor job promoting the AS trigger on the P99. I bought the QA version in '06 because I knew nothing about how the AS worked and I didn't have the internet to research. Now I wish I would have gotten an AS instead even though I can shoot it just fine. I still would like to get an AS in 9mm just to have a 9mm. All my other ones are .40cal.

The PPQsc doesn't use the same trigger as the PPQ. It's not like the P99 and P99c which share firing mechanisms.

I do like the paddle mag releaes too. I've looked over the parts diagrams and think I could put a PPQ trigger in a P99c DAO if you swap a few parts. That way I could have a PPQc with paddle mag release.

All my Walthers have ran flawless.

surferdaddy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:47 pm

Love carrying and shooting this. In my opinion...the most underrated carry gun of all time.

Surfer

This is what I was going to say. I need to get one to go along with my P99qa, PPQ 1st gen, PPS 1st gen, and P22.