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by Xander
Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:06 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Coincidence or attack avoided?
Replies: 45
Views: 6289

Re: Coincidence or attack avoided?

G.C.Montgomery wrote:
fm2 wrote:Looks like a good job of awareness to me.
...my plan was to turn toward them and challenge them with a loud, "Can I help you?"
My suggestion is to not "invite" a conversation with your verbal challenge. Maybe something like "Could you hold up right there?" .

Since they were pacing/following you, maybe you just keep moving, like you were. Working to improve your position and checking on them to see if they were closing distance and watching to see if you were being pushed into an ambush.
I agree that this sounds like Sangiovese successfully "failed" the selection process for an attack. And I like his planned challenge just fine. I know John Farnam would be proud. Asking "Can I help you?" with a firm command presence in your stance and demeanor will work just fine for queuing up BGs to the fact you aren't food. As John would say, "…courteous to all, friendly to none…”

On the other hand, "Could you hold up right there?" is no less of an "invite" for a conversation. Knowing the mindset of the knuckleheads I've grown up with on the east side of Houston, I know that sort of opener can and will come off as a straight up challenge. It gets even worse if you seem "cocky" at the time because there will be some moron willing to try you. The result is you may initiate a confrontation that will just keep going downhill once it starts.

YMMV, but that's my experience.
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by Xander
Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:05 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Coincidence or attack avoided?
Replies: 45
Views: 6289

Re: Coincidence or attack avoided?

yerasimos wrote: In my opinion, "Can I help you?" is not as useful as, "Hold up, dude."
The tone you use is far more important that the words you choose. The words you choose, however, can be used against you by witnesses to paint *you* as the aggressor. "Can I help you?" in an commanding tone could potentially paint you in a much better light after the fact, but convey the same meaning to a predator as "Hold up, dude."
by Xander
Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:50 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Coincidence or attack avoided?
Replies: 45
Views: 6289

Re: Coincidence or attack avoided?

fm2 wrote:
...my plan was to turn toward them and challenge them with a loud, "Can I help you?"
My suggestion is to not "invite" a conversation with your verbal challenge. Maybe something like "Could you hold up right there?" .
Very minor point, but I don't think that's an issue. John Farnam teaches challenging potential assailants with "Can I help you sir?" or a variation, and it's proven to quite effective from the anecdotal evidence of his former students. A number of those stories are documented in one of his books: http://www.amazon.com/Guns-Warriors-DTI ... 965942252/

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