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by NotRPB
Thu May 28, 2015 1:49 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

occurring now motion by Birdwell to not concur SB11 (re respecting private property)


Watson and West questioned, watson is satisfied



‏@MarkW_KVUE 41s41 seconds ago

.@SenatorBirdwell requesting conf cmte on #campuscarry #SB11 #txlege

West says he'll vote with Ellis against campuscarry in general
by NotRPB
Thu May 28, 2015 9:31 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Article today
http://www.texasobserver.org/a-house-di ... provision/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"The move could unexpectedly put open carry legislation—once considered a done deal"

"critical 910 update" I trust Charles interpretation best, I think this is just Interesting Blog entry i saw on Twitter that had info on it
http://texascarry.org/1/post/2015/05/hb ... pdate.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by NotRPB
Wed May 27, 2015 11:23 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Tracker wrote:what nobody is talking about but what I'm seeing is that if HB910 dies then so does the $200 Class C misdemeanor for accidental 30.0violations.
That will be a bigger loss than open-carry.

Chas.
An important point ... :cryin

I thought I could live without 910 in my above post, now I want 910 for reduced punishment, and care less about police stop amendments that do nothing..as one stated ... :something like "it's needed but does nothing other than educate police to prevent unnecessary stops" or something like that
by NotRPB
Wed May 27, 2015 11:06 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

mold spores exploded after rain I wasn't able to read a lot,felt like sand in the eyes, had trouble reading

but found where Charles explained the Rules on confer/concur/conference committee rules, thank you for clearing up, ... looks like OCT should have listened to him yet again

If I only get to mow shirtless in my yard and have to put on a shirt to use a leaf blower in the street ... I know why now.
by NotRPB
Wed May 27, 2015 7:07 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

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by NotRPB
Wed May 27, 2015 6:59 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

You're welcome, in a nutshell I think Stickland and Simpson were pointing out the amendment should not go away in committee, rather they decide which to use, depending on which order they want the 4 words in...

Rules regulating Conference Committees
http://www.tlc.state.tx.us/pubslegref/gtli.pdf#page=7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (PDF)
Conference Committee
If a conference committee is requested, the presiding officers each appoint five members
from their respective chambers to serve on the committee. The senate rules require that at
least two of the senate conferees be members of the senate committee from which the bill
was reported. A conference committee’s charge is limited to reconciling differences between
the two chambers, and the committee, unless so directed, may not alter, amend, or omit
text that is not in disagreement. The committee also may not add text on any matter that is
not in disagreement or that is not included in either version of the bill in question
. After the
committee has reached an agreement, a report is prepared for submittal to the house and
senate. The report must be approved by at least three conferees from each chamber and must
contain the text of the bill as approved by the conference committee, a side-by-side analysis
comparing the text of the compromise bill to both the house and the senate versions, and
the signatures of those members of the conference committee who approved the report. A
conference committee report is not subject to amendment by the house or senate but must
be accepted or rejected in its entirety
So, do they want the Dutton version or the Huffines version with 4 words in different order?

Is that what determines Paragraph 1 versus Paragraph 2 below?

I admit I'm lost
txyaloo wrote:
Winchster wrote:So, I'm slightly confused.

From the Legislature website

If a bill is returned to the originating chamber with amendments, the originating chamber can either agree to the amendments or request a conference committee to work out differences between the house version and the senate version. If the amendments are agreed to, the bill is put in final form, signed by the presiding officers, and sent to the governor.

Conference committees are composed of five members from each house appointed by the presiding officers. Once the conference committee reaches agreement, a conference committee report is prepared and must be approved by at least three of the five conferees from each house. Conference committee reports are voted on in each house and must be approved or rejected without amendment. If approved by both houses, the bill is signed by the presiding officers and sent to the governor.


Paragraph 1 implies: If the differences are ironed out the Speaker and Lt. Governor sign and send to the Governor.

Paragraph 2 implies: If the differences are ironed out a report is issued and then voted on in each house.

Which is it? What am I missing?

Paragraph 1 says: The originating chamber can confer on the amendments. If they confer (amendments are agreed to), the bill is signed by the presiding officers and sent to the governor

Paragraph 2 says: If they can't confer, a conference committee is formed. If/when the committee reaches an agreement, a report is formed, and then the house/senate vote on the report
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by NotRPB
Wed May 27, 2015 6:52 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

joe817 wrote:Just got back home. Have read the thread. Stickland(no r) is up. Is he trying to keep the bill alive?
@RepStickland & Simpson double teamed the chair&parlimentarian? #parliamentaryinquiry

I'm no lawyer
but what Parlimentarian read sounds like Cmttee is limited to language passed by Senate OR House (so Dutton OR Huffines) but can't add nor delete text ?

@RepStickland asserts they have a choice of grammar then, between Huffines or Dutton's 4 word difference is the limit of committee action

I'm not sure if an amendment could be "removed" by Huffines since it was voted ...

I'm officially lost in "Rules" now
by NotRPB
Wed May 27, 2015 5:34 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Rodney Ellis ‏@RodneyEllis 4m4 minutes ago

Drinking the tea w/ @KonniBurton, @electcharles, @VanTaylorTX, @DonHuffines, @SenBobHall #txlege

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by NotRPB
Wed May 27, 2015 5:03 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

HB554 finally Passes (Airport)
concurred


HB910 up now
by NotRPB
Wed May 27, 2015 3:02 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Lawmakers appear unmoved by police officers’ fierce opposition to #opencarry changes #HB910 @marissambarnett http://share.d-news.co/UiGr1cF" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Still, Phillips, who sponsored the bill in the House, said the changes would not make a huge difference in the enforcement of open carry.

He compared it to driving a car, arguing that police officers cannot stop a driver to simply check if they have a driver’s license. And because open carry would be lawful, officers should not have the ability to stop a person openly carrying.

“If we take the amendment off, I don’t think it’s going to change the law. But with that on there it gives clear direction to law enforcement of what’s allowed,” he said.
by NotRPB
Wed May 27, 2015 1:07 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11
Replies: 271
Views: 55586

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

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KVUE Television Austin> @MarkW_KVUE 39 seconds ago

.@ArtAcevedo talking w/ @SenRoyceWest, @whitmire_john. Law enforcement at Cap w/ concerns over #opencarry #txlege
v7a wrote:Looks like there's a concerted effort underway to strip away yes votes from HB910 concurrence vote:

@lmcgaughy tweet
Police across state today, incl. @CLEAT, Dallas Police Assoc and @HPOUTX speaking out against Huffines #opencarry amendment today #txlege
Prediction: if House does not concur and HB910 goes to conference, you can stick a fork in the bill.
@AdamRacusin 2 minutes ago

@ArtAcevedo and other PD's across the state calling for #txlege to get rid of @DonHuffines #opencarry amendment.

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@MarkW_KVUE 3 minutes ago

.@ArtAcevedo kicking off presser asking to drop #open carry #HB910 amd limiting ability to ask for license #txlege
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