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by Vitticeps
Tue May 26, 2015 11:34 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Replies: 799
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15

what just happened?
by Vitticeps
Tue May 26, 2015 2:48 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Replies: 799
Views: 130843

Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15

Papa_Tiger wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Papa_Tiger wrote:I applaud the legislators for using the rules as written to achieve their desired result. I only wish some of our national representatives would stand on principle and use the rules to their fullest extent to block things that they dislike.

As much as I may dislike the likely outcome of their actions, I appreciate that they are willing to work within the rules as written.
This was not an underhanded move; it's done all the time. It is done in part because of the Star Chamber-like procedure of having a Calendars Committee that works in absolute secrecy. The House should have the same procedure used by the Senate so no Member can secretly kill/tag a bill in Calendars.

Chas.
I was referring to the action on the floor today rather than anything leading up to this in the Calendars Committee. The fact that SB 11 made it out of the Calendars Committee and onto the floor calendar when it did meant that there was a limited time for the bill to live. I appreciate that those opposed to it worked within the rules of the House to kill a bill they deemed unacceptable while potentially killing other bills that they may have supported.

If I'm going to be consistent in my praise of the rules when they work for me, I have to praise the rules when they work against me as well. That doesn't mean that I shouldn't look for a way to change the rules, but I also have to acknowledge that I change the rules at my own peril.
Working within the rules by abusing and exploiting them isn't an admirable act in my view.
by Vitticeps
Tue May 26, 2015 2:35 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Replies: 799
Views: 130843

Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15

This stalling is pathetic. Nothing less than abusing the rules. The rules were never written with the intent to provide a way to delay bills that you do not like.

The more I learn about politics, the more saddened by it I become.

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