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- Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:16 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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The wife and I are out to lunch at Chedders in The Colony and it's posted 30.07 I spoke with the manager and thanked for for Allowing CC.
- Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:59 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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Android wrote the fashion accessorie part not me. I'm very pro-restored freedomJYD wrote:Wow, I am astonished on how little you know about the #2Aandroid wrote:[quote="Richbirdhunter"
Open carry is not a right. It's a dress code and comfort issue.
State v. Chandler, 5 La. Ann. 489, 490 (1850), the Louisiana Supreme Court held that citizens had a right to carry arms openly: “This is the right guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, and which is calculated to incite men to a manly and noble defense of themselves, if necessary, and of their country, without any tendency to secret advantages and unmanly assassinations.”” – US Supreme Court – District of Columbia v. Heller
The court even recognizes a long-standing judicial precedent “…to consider… prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons.”
- Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:00 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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Yes, when I walked into the office the lady at the front desk said we don't allow guns. I asked her why the signs came down and she was annoyed but she said let me go get the manager. He came out and invited me out into the hallway, that's when he told CC is fine OC you will be given verbal notice.cyphertext wrote:Richbirdhunter, I hate to keep being the Doubting Thomas on this, but I just called the mall office and the lady that I spoke to stated that the mall is private property and they have the right to refuse to let anyone carry a firearm. I told her that I understand that, but I asked if they were going to post and she told me "Yes. We are currently working on that." So I'm not sure that this issue is put to rest yet.Richbirdhunter wrote:I just left the GVM office and asked them about about the 06 signs coming down and he said it was true. If you OC the individual will be given verbal notice and a 07 card and asked to leave. He also stated that if we can't see it we are fine with CC.The Annoyed Man wrote:I get a free lun-unch. I get a free lu-unch.cyphertext wrote:Per https://www.facebook.com/groups/TexasCHLBoycott/, new 30.06 signs at Grapevine Mills Mall today...The Annoyed Man wrote:I'll take the bet. Even if I lose, I win. We get to meet and have lunch.Richbirdhunter wrote:I'll bet you lunch that no 06 or 07 signs go up TAMThe Annoyed Man wrote:That would be my bet too.cyphertext wrote:I'm betting the new signs haven't come in yet....Richbirdhunter wrote:I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.The Annoyed Man wrote: Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.![]()
BTW, I hope you're right and I lose. Unless you've got some insider information though, I'm just skeptical is all. GVM has been no friend to gun owners, and I've been doing what little mall-shopping I do at the Northeast Mall in Hurst instead. Hopefully, you're right.Dang it!
I thanked him for the change in policy and shook his hand.
TAM, are you hungry? I could eat.
My feelings are that they have said for so long that the employee is still not on board, but management has reversed their policy.
- Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:30 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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PM sentThe Annoyed Man wrote:Awesome news! So, when and where do you want to eat? (Please don't say GVM.....I hate that place anyway, like I hate all malls.Richbirdhunter wrote:I just left the GVM office and asked them about about the 06 signs coming down and he said it was true. If you OC the individual will be given verbal notice and a 07 card and asked to leave. He also stated that if we can't see it we are fine with CC.The Annoyed Man wrote:I get a free lun-unch. I get a free lu-unch.cyphertext wrote:Per https://www.facebook.com/groups/TexasCHLBoycott/, new 30.06 signs at Grapevine Mills Mall today...The Annoyed Man wrote:I'll take the bet. Even if I lose, I win. We get to meet and have lunch.Richbirdhunter wrote:I'll bet you lunch that no 06 or 07 signs go up TAMThe Annoyed Man wrote:That would be my bet too.cyphertext wrote:I'm betting the new signs haven't come in yet....Richbirdhunter wrote:I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.The Annoyed Man wrote: Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.![]()
BTW, I hope you're right and I lose. Unless you've got some insider information though, I'm just skeptical is all. GVM has been no friend to gun owners, and I've been doing what little mall-shopping I do at the Northeast Mall in Hurst instead. Hopefully, you're right.Dang it!
I thanked him for the change in policy and shook his hand.
TAM, are you hungry? I could eat.)
- Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:46 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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Re: Another casualty of Open Carry
I just left the GVM office and asked them about about the 06 signs coming down and he said it was true. If you OC the individual will be given verbal notice and a 07 card and asked to leave. He also stated that if we can't see it we are fine with CC.The Annoyed Man wrote:I get a free lun-unch. I get a free lu-unch.cyphertext wrote:Per https://www.facebook.com/groups/TexasCHLBoycott/, new 30.06 signs at Grapevine Mills Mall today...The Annoyed Man wrote:I'll take the bet. Even if I lose, I win. We get to meet and have lunch.Richbirdhunter wrote:I'll bet you lunch that no 06 or 07 signs go up TAMThe Annoyed Man wrote:That would be my bet too.cyphertext wrote:I'm betting the new signs haven't come in yet....Richbirdhunter wrote:I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.The Annoyed Man wrote:Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.Richbirdhunter wrote:So you guys have no appreciation for this restored freedom? Would you rather the government take it away again for another 125 years? Grapevine mills mall has been posted 30.06 for years and now they aren't posted at all.
Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?![]()
BTW, I hope you're right and I lose. Unless you've got some insider information though, I'm just skeptical is all. GVM has been no friend to gun owners, and I've been doing what little mall-shopping I do at the Northeast Mall in Hurst instead. Hopefully, you're right.Dang it!
I thanked him for the change in policy and shook his hand.
TAM, are you hungry? I could eat.

- Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:15 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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I drove by this morning and NO signs of any kind at any entrance. The AMC theater is still posted 06 and they did add a 07 sign.cyphertext wrote:Richbirdhunter wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:I get a free lun-unch. I get a free lu-unch.cyphertext wrote:Per https://www.facebook.com/groups/TexasCHLBoycott/, new 30.06 signs at Grapevine Mills Mall today...The Annoyed Man wrote:I'll take the bet. Even if I lose, I win. We get to meet and have lunch.Richbirdhunter wrote:I'll bet you lunch that no 06 or 07 signs go up TAMThe Annoyed Man wrote:That would be my bet too.cyphertext wrote:I'm betting the new signs haven't come in yet....Richbirdhunter wrote:I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.The Annoyed Man wrote: Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.![]()
BTW, I hope you're right and I lose. Unless you've got some insider information though, I'm just skeptical is all. GVM has been no friend to gun owners, and I've been doing what little mall-shopping I do at the Northeast Mall in Hurst instead. Hopefully, you're right.Dang it!
I'm not on Facebook, what's it say?
One guy states that there are signs at all entrances, the next guy asks if it is "new or the non-conforming one", and the OP answers new... no photos though...
- Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:46 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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The Annoyed Man wrote:I get a free lun-unch. I get a free lu-unch.cyphertext wrote:Per https://www.facebook.com/groups/TexasCHLBoycott/, new 30.06 signs at Grapevine Mills Mall today...The Annoyed Man wrote:I'll take the bet. Even if I lose, I win. We get to meet and have lunch.Richbirdhunter wrote:I'll bet you lunch that no 06 or 07 signs go up TAMThe Annoyed Man wrote:That would be my bet too.cyphertext wrote:I'm betting the new signs haven't come in yet....Richbirdhunter wrote:I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.The Annoyed Man wrote:Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.Richbirdhunter wrote:So you guys have no appreciation for this restored freedom? Would you rather the government take it away again for another 125 years? Grapevine mills mall has been posted 30.06 for years and now they aren't posted at all.
Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?![]()
BTW, I hope you're right and I lose. Unless you've got some insider information though, I'm just skeptical is all. GVM has been no friend to gun owners, and I've been doing what little mall-shopping I do at the Northeast Mall in Hurst instead. Hopefully, you're right.Dang it!
I'm not on Facebook, what's it say?
- Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:00 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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If you're in DFW come alongTexasJohnBoy wrote:I like sushi and I'm from Texas.
- Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:40 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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You name the time line, then we'll go to lunch. Since we're both from California are we legally obligated to eat sushi?The Annoyed Man wrote:I'll take the bet. Even if I lose, I win. We get to meet and have lunch.Richbirdhunter wrote:I'll bet you lunch that no 06 or 07 signs go up TAMThe Annoyed Man wrote:That would be my bet too.cyphertext wrote:I'm betting the new signs haven't come in yet....Richbirdhunter wrote:I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.The Annoyed Man wrote:Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.Richbirdhunter wrote:So you guys have no appreciation for this restored freedom? Would you rather the government take it away again for another 125 years? Grapevine mills mall has been posted 30.06 for years and now they aren't posted at all.
Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?![]()
BTW, I hope you're right and I lose. Unless you've got some insider information though, I'm just skeptical is all. GVM has been no friend to gun owners, and I've been doing what little mall-shopping I do at the Northeast Mall in Hurst instead. Hopefully, you're right.
- Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:22 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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I'll bet you lunch that no 06 or 07 signs go up TAMThe Annoyed Man wrote:That would be my bet too.cyphertext wrote:I'm betting the new signs haven't come in yet....Richbirdhunter wrote:I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.The Annoyed Man wrote:Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.Richbirdhunter wrote:So you guys have no appreciation for this restored freedom? Would you rather the government take it away again for another 125 years? Grapevine mills mall has been posted 30.06 for years and now they aren't posted at all.
Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?
- Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:01 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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cyphertext wrote:I'm betting the new signs haven't come in yet....Richbirdhunter wrote:I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.The Annoyed Man wrote:Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.Richbirdhunter wrote:So you guys have no appreciation for this restored freedom? Would you rather the government take it away again for another 125 years? Grapevine mills mall has been posted 30.06 for years and now they aren't posted at all.
Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?
Grapevine PD told me in December that the signs are coming down and that if the mall sees you OCIng they will ask you to cover up or leave.
- Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:54 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.The Annoyed Man wrote:Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.Richbirdhunter wrote:So you guys have no appreciation for this restored freedom? Would you rather the government take it away again for another 125 years? Grapevine mills mall has been posted 30.06 for years and now they aren't posted at all.
Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?
- Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:41 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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LTUME1978 wrote:Richbirdhunter,
You must live in a very isolated part of the state. Here in Houston, once the signs are up, they are not ever going to come down. All open carry did was wake the liberals up in Houston to the fact that they could be putting up signs. I see more signs going up in the tunnels in downtown Houston every day. With every new sign, someone else asks what that is all about and gets the idea that they should post as well.
The lid is off this can of worms and it will never go back. I hope the right to walk around looking like Wyatt Earp is worth it to the open carry folks because a lot of us are loosing our right to concealed carry and it may cost some of us our lives for your privilege to play cowboy.
I sent you a DM of where I live. It's deep in the heart of suburbia
- Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:17 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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Whether you do it or not isn't important, it's the fact that we can do it. Peoples fears will subside and we will find a new normal.Lynyrd wrote:The only advantage I see to OC is comfort. You can dress more comfortably. I see lots of disadvantages, and new we are seeing a lot of backlash.
- Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:53 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
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So you guys have no appreciation for this restored freedom? Would you rather the government take it away again for another 125 years? Grapevine mills mall has been posted 30.06 for years and now they aren't posted at all.
Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?
Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?