lol Carlson1, you had your chance at it It's headed to the range tommorrow, y'all can expect a range report upcoming
Seriously though...a .45-70 derringer would be a great concealable gun against...grizzly bears
They should make one in .458 Win Mag
Stroo, you mean one of THESE?
as for a powerful yet small gun, have you considered American Derringer's Derringer in .45-70??
There's a thread running on it HERE http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.p ... 113&page=1
If you hold on to it loosely when you fire it could take out someone behind you as well