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justa2e2 wrote:

Goldspurs wrote:

justa2e2 wrote:

Goldspurs wrote:

justa2e2 wrote:There isn't an outright ban on carrying your weapon on post as I am in the same situation as you. Every installation commander has the option to allow weapons on his or her installation. Here is a story about Dyess over in Abilene where the Base Commander does allow it.

http://www.dyess.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123464561

Edit: There is also talk among the ranks on some Air Force installations of allowing personnel with licenses to carry in the office as well.

I mentioned that in my post. I am sorry but I do not see any flag officers lining up to be the first to do is. I am Army by the way, so the "talk" in the Air Force is great, but I don't want to stop there. We need to get this right back.

Edit to add: Your link also mentions it still does not allow concealed carry on post. So once I leave post, at this one extreme example, I would have to stop outside the gates, disarm, secure my weapon, then drive on. Leaving would be reverse order.

It does not allow concealed carry but you are allowed to keep it in your center console or glovebox. You wouldn't have to stop and secure your weapon as you can place it in your glove box or center console prior to arrival on post.

I understand where you are coming from but you have to start somewhere. I would be more than ok with being able to just bring my weapon on the installation and keep it in my car. It sure as heck beats the alternative that I live with now (parking outside the compound just to keep it in my car). I think over time we might see more and more installations allowing personal weapons on post and some might even allow it to be carried on the person. I still wouldn't expect to see anything overnight as just with anything in the military community it will take some time.

No offense, but did you not read the point of my post? I never said that I wouldn't be happy over this start. I am trying to continue the conversation.

I took it as you wanted to be able to bring your weapon on post. If I missed another point I apologize. I will always enjoy continuing the conversation of getting our rights back.

That is a piece of it. It definitely was not to debate the one small post that actually allows it (kind of). I was hoping for any feedback on the best way to approach the subject when speaking to the aide, as the other 99.999% of the military doesn't get to enjoy this.

justa2e2 wrote:

Goldspurs wrote:

justa2e2 wrote:There isn't an outright ban on carrying your weapon on post as I am in the same situation as you. Every installation commander has the option to allow weapons on his or her installation. Here is a story about Dyess over in Abilene where the Base Commander does allow it.

http://www.dyess.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123464561

Edit: There is also talk among the ranks on some Air Force installations of allowing personnel with licenses to carry in the office as well.

I mentioned that in my post. I am sorry but I do not see any flag officers lining up to be the first to do is. I am Army by the way, so the "talk" in the Air Force is great, but I don't want to stop there. We need to get this right back.

Edit to add: Your link also mentions it still does not allow concealed carry on post. So once I leave post, at this one extreme example, I would have to stop outside the gates, disarm, secure my weapon, then drive on. Leaving would be reverse order.

It does not allow concealed carry but you are allowed to keep it in your center console or glovebox. You wouldn't have to stop and secure your weapon as you can place it in your glove box or center console prior to arrival on post.

I understand where you are coming from but you have to start somewhere. I would be more than ok with being able to just bring my weapon on the installation and keep it in my car. It sure as heck beats the alternative that I live with now (parking outside the compound just to keep it in my car). I think over time we might see more and more installations allowing personal weapons on post and some might even allow it to be carried on the person. I still wouldn't expect to see anything overnight as just with anything in the military community it will take some time.

No offense, but did you not read the point of my post? I never said that I wouldn't be happy over this start. I am trying to continue the conversation.

justa2e2 wrote:There isn't an outright ban on carrying your weapon on post as I am in the same situation as you. Every installation commander has the option to allow weapons on his or her installation. Here is a story about Dyess over in Abilene where the Base Commander does allow it.

http://www.dyess.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123464561

Edit: There is also talk among the ranks on some Air Force installations of allowing personnel with licenses to carry in the office as well.

I mentioned that in my post. I am sorry but I do not see any flag officers lining up to be the first to do is. I am Army by the way, so the "talk" in the Air Force is great, but I don't want to stop there. We need to get this right back.

Edit to add: Your link also mentions it still does not allow concealed carry on post. So once I leave post, at this one extreme example, I would have to stop outside the gates, disarm, secure my weapon, then drive on. Leaving would be reverse order.

Would appreciate some input from everyone. I have been active duty Army for 15 years and will finally be stationed back in my home state of Texas, at Fort Hood, next month. I recently wrote my Representative, Jeb Hensarling, as I am still a Texas resident. The issue I wrote about was the issue of military members not being able to defend themselves while traveling to and from work, even if they are licensed to carry in the state they are stationed in. This is due to the outright ban of carrying on military installations. Many may argue that a military post is secure (not sure how they could say that after recent events), but this completely ignores the fact that many service members live off base and often have to make stops on the transit home. Also, if I want to bring my family on post to shop, or anything else, that is another instance where I must leave my firearm at home.

I received an email today saying one of Hensarling's aides would be reaching out to me over the phone. I am rather excited to actually have a response, even if it is from an aide. I am looking for any advice on how to discuss the issue. I am sure they will bring up the fact that post commanders already have the authority to allow permit holders to carry, but most of us in the service understand that no career officer is going to risk his career by being the first. As soon as any incident happens involving a firearm his career is most likely in jeopardy due to the current climate. In my opinion whether I have the right to exercise this basic right should not rest on the opinion of one individual. I recognize the military voluntarily forfeits some rights upon joining. I am not sure this is one I am willing to live without anymore. I appreciate any responses!

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