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by txinvestigator
Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:19 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Austin TX: Alamo Drafthouse Lake Creek (update, signs gone)
Replies: 67
Views: 10780

Re: Austin TX: Alamo Drafthouse Lake Creek does now allow CCW

KBCraig wrote:
smyrna wrote:Having seen the sign at the box office, which by the way is no where near the correct size and definitly not conspicuously posted for all to see, is it really worth trying to convince the management otherwise?

I mean, other posts lead me to believe that most of us would ignore the non-compliant signs and continue on business as usual. By bringing it to the management's attention, she communicated her intent of the sign and has effectively given you notice not to carry in her establishment. Is this what you wanted?
I generally advise against educating business owners who post the wrong signs (which can be ignored), lest they replace them with the proper signs (which can't). They're usually just ignorant and mistaken, not ideologues.

In this case, though, the manager has made it clear that she wishes to exclude CHLs, even though she knows all about CHLs. I'd educate her and tell her to put up the proper signs, because if she wants to keep out all CHLs, I want to help make sure she keeps out all of them. And their families. And their friends.
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by txinvestigator
Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:35 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Austin TX: Alamo Drafthouse Lake Creek (update, signs gone)
Replies: 67
Views: 10780

Re: Austin TX: Alamo Drafthouse Lake Creek does now allow CCW

pt145ss wrote:
DVDTracker wrote:IIRC, 30.06 signs are supposed to be posted on all entrances to the building.
I don't think they are required to post at all entrances. However, If you do not see it, then it is not effective notice.
Careful, that is not true at all. Your seeing the sign is irrelevant.

§ 30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY
CONCEALED HANDGUN. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the
license holder:
(1) carries a handgun under the authority of
Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another
without effective consent; and
(2) received notice that:
(A) entry on the property by a license holder
with a concealed handgun was forbidden; or
(B) remaining on the property with a concealed
handgun was forbidden and failed to depart.

(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice
if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to
act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written
communication.
(c) In this section:
(1) "Entry" has the meaning assigned by Section
30.05(b).
(2) "License holder" has the meaning assigned by
Section 46.035(f).
(3) "Written communication" means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written
language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06,
Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed
handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411,
Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this
property with a concealed handgun"; or
(B) a sign posted on the property that:
(i) includes the language described by
Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
(ii) appears in contrasting colors with
block letters at least one inch in height; and
(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner
clearly visible to the public.
(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section
that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is
owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or
other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying
the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.

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