Courts have held that the alarm activating IS REASONABLE GROUNDS, and they have legal authority to stop you and investigate. They can use reaonable force to do so also.Diode wrote:Now don't get me wrong, I have a limit to how much I will put up with. If the stupid alarm goes off as I go out the door, I am not marching back in to let them dig thru my stuff. I have seen them "Make" people go back in to make sure they didnt steal something, I wont do that! I just move on, at that point they will need a LEO to stop me.propellerhead wrote:I'm with Skip and Diode. To me, those checks are to make sure their cashiers are ringing up stuff properly and not just pretending to scan stuff for their friends or family.
They wanna peak into my bag "Inside" the store before I exit, that I can deal with.
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- Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:38 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Fry's Electronics Has a Vinyl No Weapons or Firearms Allowed
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- Thu May 25, 2006 3:44 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Fry's Electronics Has a Vinyl No Weapons or Firearms Allowed
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Every time they stop you without reasonable belief they are accusing you of stealing.AV8R wrote:The poor boy wasn't accusing anyone of anything, as far as I can see. He was doing his assigned job, which must be quite unpleasant, as he is required to invade the private space of each and every customer leaving the store, and he knows he's on camera, to boot. Pride in one's own bad manners, and amusement at the discomfort one causes others, are pathological personality issues that I don't want to see associated with CHL holders as a whole. Deal with the officers, not the troops, on policy issues. They know which side their bread plate is on, and what the little spoon is for.
And no, I've never been accused of stealing, and I don't expect that it will happen.
And what experience and training do you have in diagnosing personality disorders?
You will excuse me if I care not what YOU "care to see associated with CHL holders."
Is that elitism I smell?
- Thu May 25, 2006 3:38 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Fry's Electronics Has a Vinyl No Weapons or Firearms Allowed
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No, I am NOT subject to ANY inspection by the business just because I am still in their store.rgoldy wrote:We have been over this ground to some extent before. I do not see an accusation of anything in these folks asking to see the receipt or even to look in your bag. At that point (inside the door) you are still on their property and still subject to some inspection by the business.
The Texas Code of Criminal Procedure and Texas Civil Practices and Remedies Code BOTH require a person to have reasonable belief that property is stolen, or that a person is attempting to steal property before store employees can detain the person to ascertain ownership of the property.
Once I pay for that merchandise it is MINE. They have NO, ZERO, NADA right to stop me and request that I show them anything.
- Thu May 25, 2006 2:43 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Fry's Electronics Has a Vinyl No Weapons or Firearms Allowed
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Please, I suppose you never mess with ANYONE who is accusing you of stealing?AV8R wrote:"I was just there and took shameless glee in confusing the young kid checking bags at the exit. "
I missed something...this is evidence of exactly which attribute of character, intelligence, or social grace that you are reflecting upon with such pride?
As I have never publicly called someone a moron, I will not do so now, as it appears obvious that the poster's comments fail to meet the threshold for that designation.