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kw5kw wrote:

txinvestigator wrote: It says Peace Officer, and Peace Officer is defined in the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure. A BP agent is not a peace officer.

Do they not have arrest powers?

txinvestigator wrote:

kw5kw wrote:Second, If I don't tell (He already knows because it will come up on screen anyway) I have just given said LEO an excuse to search my vehicle/person... probable cause: "Lying about having a weapon." Why go thru that?

If you are not carrying a handgun, failing to tell him you have a CHL is NOT an excuse to search your vehicle. No way, no how!

Our instructor was very emphatic on this point... Show and keep yourself out of trouble.

kw5kw wrote:To keep from being a 'test case' I will always show my DL and CHL to any... and I mean any officer of the law. No matter if it's FBI, Border Patrol, DPS, Sheriff, Local or whatever... I WILL SHOW and TELL.

Heck, for one: I'm proud to have passed the stringent background verification process that was required for me to have this license in the first place. By producing said license, maybe--just maybe--this LEO will cut me some slack.

After all, notice the law doesn't say anything about it being "A TEXAS LEO" in the first place. If I'm in Vermont, and I get pulled over by the county mountie, I'm-A-Showin'.

Second, If I don't tell (He already knows because it will come up on screen anyway) I have just given said LEO an excuse to search my vehicle/person... probable cause: "Lying about having a weapon." Why go thru that?

wrt45 wrote:

Photoman wrote:

txinvestigator wrote: Whether you are required to show your CHL or not depends on if you are carrying. If you are not in possession of your handgun, then you do not have to show ANYONE your CHL.

Wow! This is news to me. I was left, after my CHL class, with the distinct impression that I was required to ALWAYS show my CHL to LEO when asked for identification no matter what my carry status.

I wont say where I took my CHL class!

We teach our students that, while you are not technically required to show an officer the CHL if you aren't carrying, its still a good idea. As soon as the officer runs the license, he/she knows you have a CHL and then they'll ask you if you are carrying. We teach "tell them first."

I hadn't ever thought about the Border Patrol issue that this thread raises.

I don't think BP requesting ID results in a license check like a traffic stop would, but I don't know. Any of you LE guys know? Does BP run checks through the system? Should we modify our advice in this instance?

stash wrote:Good morning guys/gals - hope this comes out ok - not really familar with all the computer lingo.

If you are carrying and come upon a Border Patrol check point are you required to display CHL if the Border Patrol Agent (BPA) asks for your DL. The way I understand it BPA's are not considered peace officers in the State of Tejas. I probably would provide CHL if asked to ID.

Also is a fixed check point (the real big one right off Interstate 10 at Sierra Blanca, Tx) considered federal property. Been thru that one lots of times the last five years and just wondered when this post came up and thought I would ask.

I have been at this site for the last year or so and it is really informative and I enjoy it. Glad I finally registered.

edgarou wrote:no where did I say I was taking my gun to mexico
I'm talking about showing my CHL to customs ,and border patrol
on the U.S side. you know showing it to law enforcement when asked for I.D and all thet good stuff.