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Glockamolie wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:Everybody has a story. I just think some of them are embellished to support a way of thinking that is not backed by law.
As a former LEO, I concur.

Yeah, but what do we know?

txinvestigator

kw5kw wrote: The LEO when he goes back to his vehicle and types in your DL and it pops up CHL and he comes back and ask's you where your weapon is. He might just have suspicion that you are hiding something from him... and we're supposed to be the good guys and we're hiding something from him ... maybe! It just puts the encounter off on the wrong foot.

TXI, as a former LEO, would you not rather have someone be totally honest to you to begin with? Being honest and open--to a LEO--is the only way to be in my humble opinion. It's called cooperation.

Of course I want a person to be honest.

If the person is NOT carrying, he is not being dishonest by not providing the CHL. Thats not a hard concept.

And your quote about how DPS handles traffic stops makes the point moot, does it not?

Texas Department of Public Safety troopers will ask you:

Whether you are licensed to carry a concealed handgun
Whether you have the gun with you

txinvestigator

stevie_d_64 wrote:But see its kinda funny, as I rarely, almost never "not" have it on me...

So its easy for me...

"Yes sir, here's my "licences" and proof of registration, insurance."

You'll find out that getting stopped by HPD, you will never, ever talk your way out of a citation...ever...Once they pull you over the citation is halfway finished...They can't stop because it is an electronically filed citation...Once they start, they can't stop or erase the entry...

How convienient...

I reside myself to the fact that it is my fault, and that I deserve the citation...

That way I have a most excellent outward attitude (inside I'm boiling! hehehe) and everyone goes home that day...

I think it is easier to just present both ID's whether you're armed or not...

First of all, your registration is on your windshield.

A little disingeniuos?

Easier? really? get stopped often?

txinvestigator

Paladin wrote:Just to make sure everybody reads this part:

txinvestigator wrote:I had a LEO threaten me with jail because I did not show my CHL when I was not required to.
I'm not saying that you're legally wrong txi, just that I don't recommend your way of handling the situation.

I'll keep that ACLU mindest in my thougts.

txinvestigator

Paladin wrote:
KBCraig wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:If you are not carrying it does not matter.
It's not required. But it can certainly matter, because it can affect the officer's attitude.
+1

My CHL instructor had first hand experience with it. He was stopped, didn't have his carry gun, gave out is license, The LEO ran it, got a surprise, and the LEO was rather nervous and upset when he got back to the car.

In fact the LEO recommended my instructor to disclose the info (one way or another) during a traffic stop.

I thought the whole thing through and I 100% agree with my instructor(a former LEO) and the LEO doing the traffic stop.

That only applies inside Texas though. Outside Texas is a whole nother ballgame.

Thats silly. What does "nervous and upset" mean? The officer was "upset " because the violator did not do something he is not required to do AT ALL?

Perhaps I just don't approach LE with the mystique as others, but cops are just people with a difficult job. I follow the law and don't worry about it. In fact, I had a LEO threaten me with jail because I did not show my CHL when I was not required to. I simply apologized, then called his supervisor and got it corrected.

Everybody has a story. I just think some of them are embellished to support a way of thinking that is not backed by law.

txinvestigator

KBCraig wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:If you are not carrying it does not matter.
It's not required. But it can certainly matter, because it can affect the officer's attitude.

So can your cologne. Whats your point? If you are not carrying he will ask you if you are armed if runs your DL. You politely answer no, and thats it.

If you are hoping that he will cut you some slack or not give you a ticket because you HAVE a chl, then by all means, show it.

txinvestigator

Paladin wrote:
AggieMM wrote:But it is only required if I am "armed"?

Yep, but it is always a good idea to be upfront about your CHL IF they are going to run your DL. Cause the CHL will come up when they run the DL.

If you are not carrying it does not matter.

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