LedJedi wrote:i think it was your sunny disposition.txinvestigator wrote:To this day I have no idea what his problem was.
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- Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:16 pm
- Forum: Never Again!!
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- Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 am
- Forum: Never Again!!
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Intentionally Failing to conceal is a Class A Misdemeanor, one which a NON-LEO cannot arrest for.GSchretter wrote:O6nop wrote:I read the account carefully, too.Having read the account carefully
I feel like there's something missing here, that's all. I have met a lot of jerks in my life but I've never met one like this Cabela's greeter that wasn't drunk, high or severely challenged mentally. A guy, for no reason accuses someone of carrying a gun, surely he doesn't do that to everyone... He says he "knows" he had a gun in the bag. We don't know that he doesn't until later, we find out he's carrying a gun bag but the gun's in his pocket. Why was it in his pocket instead of his bag? Did he move it while in the parking lot? Did someone see him with it and notified the front desk? All we know is that he tells the guy he has a CHL. Pretty much admitting that he had a gun without showing him, or did he? Did he ever show him the gun or CHL? We don't know. He never denied having a gun. It sounds like he admitted he did. Did he comply with the guy? The guy didn't restrain him enough to prevent him from walking into the store although he followed him. And the orange vest, did it say "security" on it? There just seems to be a lot that isn't revealed. I'm filling in the blanks with my imagination, I guess.
I'm trying to imagine someone being a total jerk as he describes, but in my 50 years, have never met anyone like that, gun related or not. I'm trying to get to why this greeter guy would react the way he did. I'm not trying to accuse or defend anyone, just interested in learning all I can about these situations, since I carry. I may want to know what to do in a situation and why someone would react like this guy did. I probably would have reacted quite differently, but I won't know until it happens.
I'm just hoping that we hear back about how the complaint went and what actions were taken.
1. Never at anytime was the gun exposed. It always stays in my front pocket.
2. If I did exposed the gun then I should have been arrested right? Didn't you take the CHL class. I was told that if you expose your gun for any reason unless your life could end you will go to jail.
And you were taught wrong. AN inadvertent "flash" of the gun is not a violation. Several people one this board have had LEOs whisper to them that they were showing.
- Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:49 pm
- Forum: Never Again!!
- Topic: Thanks...
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You have been fortunate. In the mid '90s I was in a local stop and rob looking at the cold medicine. The clerk, out of nowhere, yelled out, "hey you leave!" I looked up, wondering who he was speaking to. He was looking directly at me and said even louder, "I said get the fire out of here", except he used much more colorful language.O6nop wrote:I read the account carefully, too.Having read the account carefully
I feel like there's something missing here, that's all. I have met a lot of jerks in my life but I've never met one like this Cabela's greeter that wasn't drunk, high or severely challenged mentally. A guy, for no reason accuses someone of carrying a gun, surely he doesn't do that to everyone... He says he "knows" he had a gun in the bag. We don't know that he doesn't until later, we find out he's carrying a gun bag but the gun's in his pocket. Why was it in his pocket instead of his bag? Did he move it while in the parking lot? Did someone see him with it and notified the front desk? All we know is that he tells the guy he has a CHL. Pretty much admitting that he had a gun without showing him, or did he? Did he ever show him the gun or CHL? We don't know. He never denied having a gun. It sounds like he admitted he did. Did he comply with the guy? The guy didn't restrain him enough to prevent him from walking into the store although he followed him. And the orange vest, did it say "security" on it? There just seems to be a lot that isn't revealed. I'm filling in the blanks with my imagination, I guess.
I'm trying to imagine someone being a total jerk as he describes, but in my 50 years, have never met anyone like that, gun related or not. I'm trying to get to why this greeter guy would react the way he did. I'm not trying to accuse or defend anyone, just interested in learning all I can about these situations, since I carry. I may want to know what to do in a situation and why someone would react like this guy did. I probably would have reacted quite differently, but I won't know until it happens.
I'm just hoping that we hear back about how the complaint went and what actions were taken.
For one of the few times, I was dumbstruck. I stood there like a goober, trying to figure out what was going on. Apparently this enraged him, as he stepped from behind the counter and began to scream at me. I snapped to then, and walked out carefully watching this guy.
To this day I have no idea what his problem was.
- Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:42 am
- Forum: Never Again!!
- Topic: Thanks...
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At the moment he made you feel not free to go, he restrained you.GSchretter wrote:Wildscar wrote:Careful about stereotypes. Serial killers often have an everyday Joe look.GSchretter wrote:I am a very clean cut and in shape, not some tatto up longer hair hippe druggy.
I'm condoning what he did in any way. He just knew what to look for. Sorry for your poor encounter.GSchretter wrote:I have carried several times there before.
Here is the bag I had:
http://www.copsplus.com/prodnum2513.php
You do make a good point about the serial killer thing.
I guess what bothered me was his approach. He could have walked up to me and said Sir, if you are bringing a gun in the store for an employee to view we need to check it"
Not cornering me and raise his hands to block my movement.
Next time I will go with a shirt that says:
"NO, I am not carrying a gun for an employee to check" ha ha..
I like Sportsmen Warehouse more anyways.
I just did it for the 20% coupon.
Texas Penal Code
Text
§20.01. Definitions.
In this chapter:
(1) "Restrain" means to restrict a person's movements without
consent, so as to interfere substantially with the person's liberty,
by moving the person from one place to another or by confining the
person. Restraint is "without consent" if it is accomplished by:
(A) force, intimidation, or deception;
§20.02. Unlawful restraint.
(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or
knowingly restrains another person.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor
I would have, at minimum, called the PD. I would have told him to move aside, and when he did not I would have taken action. I am under NO obligation to answer his questions or tell him I have a CHL. If they have a policy against carry in the store, they can order me to leave. However, cornering me, placing his arms up and telling me that "he can't let me go anywhere" establishes his intent to PREVENT me from leaving.