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by txinvestigator
Fri May 11, 2007 12:47 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How identical is identical?
Replies: 27
Views: 3725

phddan wrote:
If the sign is obviously compliant by good faith then obey it. we are all adults and know the intent.
I respect your opinion, but I think you are wrong on this. If the sign can not be posted per what the law specifies, than it is non compliant sign. Period.

. we are all adults and know the intent.
Would like to think so. So what is the problem with the DA's that can't figure out the intent of the travelling law?

Dan
Whatever. :roll: If you are measuring letters and carrying when a letter is missing from a sign, don't expect a LEO to share your sentiments.
by txinvestigator
Fri May 11, 2007 12:21 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How identical is identical?
Replies: 27
Views: 3725

Frost wrote:This post has inspired me, and i now have a signature for this board.
lol
by txinvestigator
Fri May 11, 2007 12:21 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How identical is identical?
Replies: 27
Views: 3725

gmckinl wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:It does not matter what DPS says, it matters what the law says. :smile:
Thanks. That's exactly my point. What is the law. If it truly means 1 inch equals >=1, then 0.9 doesn't cut it. I guess I'm just ate up with it since my profession deals w/ words and punctuation; "shall" means you must do it, "will" or "must" or anything other than "shall" means you don't have to... it's not a requirement. All requirements shall contain the word "shall".

Yes, I too heard the bit about clear glass not being a color and the law referring to colors (plural), there again what is reality?

Specific example. If we are to adhear to "intent", what about the school down the street from me. It has the entrance to the pull thru drive marked with a 30.06 sign which if compliant would preclude you from pulling in and dropping off the kidos. It is done in 3/4 inch letters (I measured them). Even forgetting the "a" and "," issues, does this then satisfy your criteria for meeting the intent and I should not enter? Regardless of the fact that it simply does not comply w/ the stated requirements in PC 30.06. Like the thread title says, how identical is identical?

BTW, nothing personal to you, I'm just amazed at how loosey goosey the laws are compared to what I deal w/ daily. Notice I didn't even get into significant digits or tolerance issues w/ the 1 inch number.

Thanks TXI for all your advice. :grin:
Hey man, I appreciate your thoughts and I see your point. I just don't get all of the hubub. (that is a word, right?)

We do the best we can to obey the law; at least I HOPE we do. Being hyper-literal and seeking out "loopholes" is counter to what being a CHL holder is about, IMO. We should err on the side of caution.

If your school is a "public" school, then it is a government entity location and a 30.06 is not enforceable there. :smile:
by txinvestigator
Fri May 11, 2007 12:15 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How identical is identical?
Replies: 27
Views: 3725

KD5NRH wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:And to be frank, all of this nonsense about commas, missing letter "A"s, what exactly is a "block letter" are they all caps, the letters are only 8/9 of an inch tall, glass is not a contrasting color, ad nauseam; is just that, nonsense.

If the sign is obviously compliant by good faith then obey it. we are all adults and know the intent.
I'll remember that next time I'm pulled over for just mixing the numbers on the speed limit sign up a bit while making a good faith attempt to drive safely.
Yeah, that makes sense. :banghead:
by txinvestigator
Thu May 10, 2007 8:35 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How identical is identical?
Replies: 27
Views: 3725

It does not matter what DPS says, it matters what the law says.

And to be frank, all of this nonsense about commas, missing letter "A"s, what exactly is a "block letter" are they all caps, the letters are only 8/9 of an inch tall, glass is not a contrasting color, ad nauseam; is just that, nonsense.

If the sign is obviously compliant by good faith then obey it. we are all adults and know the intent.

And forgive me for going off on YOUR thread. I have been biting my tongue (metaphorically) about this in several threads.

No offense to you meant. :smile:

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