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AF-Odin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:40 pm Hope they have us on the waitlist in the order in which we responded to the initial invite rather than the confirmation today.

I understood today's email to say we'd be on the wait list in the order of applications received, not the order of responding to today's email.

hitwsr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:13 am I got the class full email.
I'm going to throw a few questions out there.

Any thoughts on what to charge for a 40 hour class?

Equipment standards? As in City carries Glock, County carries Sig,

Pass/Fail Criteria? 2nd chance cost if they maybe pass written and not pass "advanced" shooting?

I'll opine on these topics.

Keep in mind the legislature constrained the initial course to not exceed 40 hrs; it didn't specify a minimum length. Without knowing what the exact task/conditions/standards of whatever the DPS has developed, it's not feasible to identify how long it will take to get first responder students to achieve those standards. So, developing a cost-estimate at this point in time is just a swag.

Rather than starting from a pre-determined timeline of 'X' number of hours or days, I would use the topics listed in the statue as a staring point & estimate how long it will take YOU to instruct up to 6x students of varying skill levels to accomplish each of the required tasks to standard. ((Whatever standard the DPS establishes would be the bare minimum in order to be compliant with the program; those standards we'll have to wait for the class to know)). ((I'm assuming 6x students, patterning it off the SSC Instructor: Student ratio of 1:6, not to exceed 12x students if you partner with another instructor)).

For example, the SSC only has three must-pass events: 90%+ score on the pre- & post- written exams, & a 90%+ score on the pre-qualification using the same course of fire as the LTC proficiency. All of the practical exercises & remaining live fire events aren't graded. The legislature established the topics to be covered, but not the standards. Same as the FRT. So, if the requirement for 'shooting while moving' is only a familiarization event without a marksmanship requirement, then you can easily run students thru the event & move on to the next 'familiarization' event without providing any real, meaningful instruction ((no, I'm not advocating for this approach; rather I'm highlighting how each of us can estimate the time required to actually provide a value-added event rather than just running cattle thru the chute to receive a certificate)). However, if there's an actual standard to be achieved, ((ie, "with 10x rounds loaded, hit X% of targets while moving forward from the 15yd line to the 5yd line within 30 seconds of the starting beep, while continuously moving without stopping, & without causing an unsafe act")), then we'll also need to factor in the instruction, demonstration, & dry/live fire practice time to get up to 6x students with minimal experience to the point of reaching that standard.

For retests, I'd assume it will be the same standard as for the SSC; 1x retest allowed. But, there's only 3x graded events in the SSC, & two of those are written exams. We won't know until the instructor training what the DPS has put together for the FRT.

For equipment requirements, I'd use whatever the DPS' curriculum mandates, then adding to it as you see fit for however you intend to run your course. As an example, for some of my private courses I require the students to bring a bare minimum of 2x magazines, but I state in the welcome letter that bringing 6x magazines will optimize the flow of the course of fire. For running 6x students thru a course like the SSC or FRT, I'd just require they bring x# of magazines, as having students go dry at differing stages of each drill would interrupt the flow of instruction & become a training distractor. Again, without knowing the exact curriculum, a required gear list would be a swag at this point.