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by jed
Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:37 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Authorities Respond to Report of ’20 Victim Shooting’ Incident in San Bernardino: Fire Dept.
Replies: 143
Views: 20450

Re: Authorities Respond to Report of ’20 Victim Shooting’ Incident in San Bernardino: Fire Dept.

baldeagle wrote:
doncb wrote:On NPR this morning, one of the people they interviewed said they used AR15 style rifles (DPMS and S&W) and had 2 pistols (S&W and Lama?). He also made the comment that the man had left the party and went home and got his wife and the other person and returned to the scene.

As to the gun grabbers, maybe if California didn't have such stupid gun laws, there might have been a couple of CHL holders in that room. At least the toll might not have been so high.

Gabbie Gifords husband was on the news spouting the usual anti-gun rhetoric. Universal background checks, blah, blah, blah. He said there has been over 300 "mass shootings" in the US this year. What constitutes "mass", more than 1? The distortions and lies will flood out now.
This is something new that they've come up with. A guy on Reddit put together an Excel spreadsheet. He defined mass shooting as "any time 4 or more people are shot". The FBI definition is much narrower than that. It has to be at least four killed, not gang related, not domestic violence, not crime related (like a robbery gone bad.)

With the new definition he came up with 352 mass shootings in 2015 (versus 30 for the FBI) and how anti-gun nuts are touting that to the rooftops. Now the news media has picked up on it, and it's growing like wildfire.

I downloaded the spreadsheet and glanced at it last night. The first two were a fight at a bar and a domestic fight. Only one killed in both incidents. Definitely not mass shooting.

When people think about mass shootings they think about several things; random violence, public setting with a large crowd, automatic weapons.

Here's the site: http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015
When did this really increase?
2008 to present.

What is the common denominator?
Our president.
by jed
Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:31 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Authorities Respond to Report of ’20 Victim Shooting’ Incident in San Bernardino: Fire Dept.
Replies: 143
Views: 20450

Re: Authorities Respond to Report of ’20 Victim Shooting’ Incident in San Bernardino: Fire Dept.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/am-shock- ... 14943.html

"The suspects "had 1,400 .223 caliber rounds and 200 9 mm rounds on their person," Burguan said.

Farook and Malik were reportedly armed with four guns: two semiautomatic handguns and two .223-caliber assault rifles, all of which were purchased legally, according to Burguan.

When police searched the suspects' home, they found "several hundred” .22 long rifle rounds, "12 pipe bomb-type devices" in the garage, "hundreds of tools, many of which could be used to construct IEDs or pipe bombs," 2,000 9mm rounds, and 2,500 .223 rounds of ammunition. "

Yep, sounds like run of the mill work place violence to me.

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