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Under ideal conditions I find the Kahr P380 EXTREMELY accurate for what it is. Unless something is wrong on the gun, I would diagnose the issue as something with the shooter. I broke it in and qualified with it to carry it on duty as a BUG and shot like 298/300, including shots out to 25 yards. Now this is relaxed, unstressed shooting.

Send some bullets over my head and some coworkers screaming on the radio and I bet that group would get bigger in a hurry.

mkosmo wrote:

handog wrote:

mkosmo wrote:
I don't know where people get off saying it won't penetrate aluminum foil, but the ballistics gelatin looks good enough for me, and its good enough to stop my threat. Maybe we should all wear aluminum foil armor

Or you could just catch the .380 bullet with your teeth.

From what I gather from the more knowledgeable members here is that with the "marginal" stopping power of the .380, the bad guy may theoretically be able to get a shot off after being wounded therefore putting my life in danger. The questionable stopping power and the apparent 380 ammo shortage
(when I asked for 380 at the academy they laughed) makes me second guess my Kahr 380 purchase. Should have went with the PM9.

Next question: What do you tell your wife when she asks why you need so many guns?

Two to the chest, one to the head. Good luck getting one off on me in that condition

At what range to plan on getting in this confrontation? Shot placement may be key, but I know well trained shooters that when placed in combat stress are doing well to hit upper torso...trying to place a well aimed head shot at any sort of distance under any load of stress is DIFFICULT. You cannot simulate the true stress of pointing a gun at someone and taking the slack out of the trigger.

I'm all for the .380, and I think it will do the job if I ever have to call upon it, but I am not going to tout with any degree of certainty where my perfect shots are going to hit an approaching threat when fired from the miniscule frame of my Kahr P380. I can shoot great groups with it, but under stress, that little gun is going to be a whole lot harder to shoot well.