Excellent info here, and well inline with contemporary training.Texas Dan Mosby wrote:I've practiced both ways and shoot equally bad either way.
The stance is the foundation of shooting, and SOOOO many shooters try to build a house on a poor foundation, which never works out very well...
Check out this muldoon..
First shot, maybe on target, follow up shots = crap/slow due to poor stance that does NOT facilitate recoil management.
How about these folks...
What you SHOULD be seeing in the photo are the instructor types lovingly placing a boot in the keister of all those shooters standing straight up like a post, or standing with their feet too close together...
While there are pro's and cons to each of the contemporary stances taught today, they ALL share some common characteristics...
1. The feet should be spread far enough apart to provide balance and stability.
2. The knees should be flexed for balance, comfort, and to facilitate recoil management.
3. Weight should be forward to facilitate recoil management.
4. The stance should be comfortable and provide an all around stable shooting platform.
Whether you use isoscelese, modified iso, or weaver, if your stance doesn't have these characteristics, you're doing something wrong.
Check out "the great one"...
Arguably THE greatest competitive action shooter in.....well...EVER.
While most competition shooters use some form of the iso stance, you will see that they all incorporate the same characteristics listed above.
I treat the stance similar to how I would treat a tackle in football. If I try to make a tackle from a position of poor balance, stability, and with my weight back instead of forward, then I am going to get knocked right on my keister. Recoil is similar, and while it won't necessarily knock you on your tail, it is far easier to manage with a good aggressive stance, and it is easier to transition from shooting to "hands on" should things go...not so well.
Here's a couple of nice aggressive stances....casual, but still aggressive...
Note how they share similar characteristics as the stance used by this muldoon...
Best of luck
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- Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:03 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
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Re: STANCE
- Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:59 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
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Re: STANCE
What about the former tier 1 operator that is having a PTSD episode, or the well equipped bank robbers hitting the LA bank? You will most likely not have the upper hand in a gun fight because you will be on the reaction side of the event, and action is always faster than reaction. Whether an adversary is trained or not, a stray round can hit wherever it pleases.gwtrikenut wrote:I agree about the bullet getting sucked into the arm pit area. But if one were unlucky enough to actually get into a shoot out with the bg, do these guys really do much practice? I doubt it. So with the practice I do, I figure I am puting myself into a much better situation and have the upper hand, so to speak. I am not going to get into a shoot out with an arms instructor or a police officer. And the way the "gangsta" holds his gun, he is most likely going to shoot to my left or right side by a mile and even more the more quick shots he takes.gigag04 wrote:All the training I have been through advocates what you describe, commonly referred to as a fighter's stance. Narrow isn't always better though if you're wearing a vest or plate carrier. A bullet getting sucked into the armpit is very deadly since it's a straight path to the heart/important stuff.gwtrikenut wrote:I know or have heard the stance one should take when shooting is feet apart, side by side, and lean a bit forward. But to me, I feel a little better and more balanced with one foot slightly behind the other. In my instance, being right handed, my right foot behind the left. To me I feel better and in control more. Standing a bit off square and a smaller target. Or more narrow if you will.
So the best "stance" is to keep from getting into that situation in the first place.
- Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:36 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
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Re: STANCE
All the training I have been through advocates what you describe, commonly referred to as a fighter's stance. Narrow isn't always better though if you're wearing a vest or plate carrier. A bullet getting sucked into the armpit is very deadly since it's a straight path to the heart/important stuff.gwtrikenut wrote:I know or have heard the stance one should take when shooting is feet apart, side by side, and lean a bit forward. But to me, I feel a little better and more balanced with one foot slightly behind the other. In my instance, being right handed, my right foot behind the left. To me I feel better and in control more. Standing a bit off square and a smaller target. Or more narrow if you will.