VMI77 wrote:gigag04 wrote:Seems standard - he lost me on the disarming but its within his right to do so so meh...
The questions might annoy you, but are great tools to lead million dollar cartel cash seizures, dope, and stolen guns. It wasn't anything personal to you, he just has a job he's trying to do to likely provide for his family. What I have found is that a little patience, perspective, and understanding from both parties can make things go much easier.
Just curious...would you lean inside a vehicle to retrieve a gun with a "suspect" 15 feet away if you hadn't searched him first....or even if you had? It seems like a pretty vulnerable position to me, and if the officer is trusting the suspect enough to believe he's got a gun in the center console, and no weapons on his person, then what's the point in retrieving the gun?
Depends. My eyes can pick up things on a person's person that most cannot, based on bulges, clothing drape, and behavior. I pat lots of folks down and even consent search a lot , but sometimes that is a formality, and I know what is there. I also am fairly skilled at giving people I contact the illusion that I am a goofy happy go lucky cop. I get more cooperation, more dope, more intel, and more arrests that way. It is an act for sure, and is even taught in interdiction schools. It is also fun "playing dumb" with people right up until the point that their house of cards come crashing down and the handcuffs go on.
Anybody that I contact who thinks I don't have 3 different ways to kill them in my head is kidding themselves.
Stripes Dude wrote:I have had many encounters with LEOs that put me on the defensive.
A recent one happened where we called the non-emergency police number to report vandalism in our alley. I live in Allen, northeast of Dallas, and the houses in my neighborhood are 250k-ish, so it's a decent area. Anyway, cop shows up, and immediately runs my wife's license, looking for warrants. Did he have the right to do that?
ORRR...by running her DL through dispatch, it logs her name and contact info in the call, so that when she calls to get the report but has lost her case card, they can find it in CAD with a simple search. Or, that info is logged in the call he leaves your house and gets in a high speed pursuit and sloshes your contact info around the inside of his car and can't find it. He can later pull up the call, and still be able to complete your report (least favorite part of the job). So, yes he has a right to do that because you called him there. You can refuse, but don't be looking for him to take a report from an uncooperative reporting party. Identifying people you contact is fairly simple procedure for officers - there is more going on in the background of how records systems work. Again, its about persective.
Stripes Dude wrote:We were standing in our driveway, not in or near our car. He then proceeded take the complaint down in a report, and promptly left. By the way, he looked all of 25, so I'm assuming he was just pounding his chest to show us who was in charge.
Seems like more than one of you might have had a bad attitude...but I wasn't there and am not much more than 25 (30)...
In summary to the OP, it may have been fishing, but I don't see anything wrong with that. He was doing his job. He lost me on the disarming, even if a violator were in the car, but that is his choice. I don't think you could argue that were searched, as I think the courts and public opinion about armed individuals encountering police would leave the option to enter a vehicle to secure a weapon up to the officer in the situation.
