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by WTR
Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:29 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Daytona veteran beaten up for trying to save turtle's life, police say
Replies: 50
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Re: Daytona veteran beaten up for trying to save turtle's life, police say

Bitter Clinger wrote:You realize that I have no self control...
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That boy would take a finger off.
by WTR
Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:20 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Daytona veteran beaten up for trying to save turtle's life, police say
Replies: 50
Views: 10917

Re: Daytona veteran beaten up for trying to save turtle's life, police say

The Annoyed Man wrote:
WTR wrote:
Lambda Force wrote:
A woman was walking her toddler around a pond at Wedgewood Apartments and told police she saw three men torturing a turtle.

I doubt it was a sea turtle if it was living in a pond at an apartment complex, so unlikely to be a federal offense.
What difference does that make?
It makes no difference to the turtle, but it could make a BIG difference to the defendants, based on whether or not there are federal charges involved for torturing an endangered species.
I realize the criminal penalties would be different. However, there should be no difference as to one's response to torture of a life.
by WTR
Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:40 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Daytona veteran beaten up for trying to save turtle's life, police say
Replies: 50
Views: 10917

Re: Daytona veteran beaten up for trying to save turtle's life, police say

Lambda Force wrote:
A woman was walking her toddler around a pond at Wedgewood Apartments and told police she saw three men torturing a turtle.

I doubt it was a sea turtle if it was living in a pond at an apartment complex, so unlikely to be a federal offense.

What difference does that make?
by WTR
Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:32 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Daytona veteran beaten up for trying to save turtle's life, police say
Replies: 50
Views: 10917

Re: Daytona veteran beaten up for trying to save turtle's life, police say

george wrote:
WTR wrote:
george wrote:Three kids kill a turtle, and you guys are talking about drawing your pistols?
What about them attacking a Disabled Vet escapes you?
So this story does not address the use of a concealed handgun, but it got me to wondering. In a situation like this, where the agressors were clearly doing something morally/ethically wrong, and presumably illegal, but they are not attacking you, your wife, your child, your dog......in fact, they are torturing a wild animal that belongs to nobody.....it made me ask:

Would any of you interfered? If not, why not? If yes, based on what reasoning?

If yes, would the situation have justified getting your hand on a weapon first?

At what point, if any, did the (human) victim's actions become defensible or indefensible?


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Putting the animal cruelty aside, once the scum lay a hand on me, I'm fearing for my life and lead flies.
by WTR
Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:22 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Daytona veteran beaten up for trying to save turtle's life, police say
Replies: 50
Views: 10917

Re: Daytona veteran beaten up for trying to save turtle's life, police say

george wrote:Three kids kill a turtle, and you guys are talking about drawing your pistols?
What about them attacking a Disabled Vet escapes you?

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