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by WildBill
Sat May 31, 2008 10:03 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Question on carrying at customer's site
Replies: 11
Views: 1561

Re: Question on carrying at customer's site

dukesean wrote:It may just be semantics when I talk about whether or not to use the badge. As far as I'm concerned, if I don't use the badge then I am no longer bound by their employee guidelines, and since there is no 30.06 posted at the entrances, then I consider myself perfectly within my right to carry. I think I'll just stop using the badge, despite the inconvenience factor.
Not to beat a dead horse, but once you have been given notice it can't be undone.
by WildBill
Fri May 30, 2008 8:51 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Question on carrying at customer's site
Replies: 11
Views: 1561

Re: Question on carrying at customer's site

dukesean wrote:However, I do know that in my application for the badge, it states by having/using the badge I must abide by employee rules, which include no guns.
2) I can access the campus without using the security badge simply by checking in at the entrance and providing my drivers license, which is a minor inconvenience. This means that I am not under obligation to abide by the rules put forth by using the badge. Should I stop using the badge and simply check in every single time, or should I just keep using the badge until I get "caught" (which should be never)?


+1 on Boomerang's post

IMO, just because you don't sign for the badge doesn't mean that you aren't obligated to follow the rules. If you get caught the consequences from the company will be the same whether you agreed to follow the rules or not. You can claim ignorance of the rules, but it still doesn't matter. If they find you are carrying, they will ask you to leave and your company will find out that you carried a handgun on the customer's property. Even though you may not be breaking any laws, they might even call the police. If you expect either your employer or customer to cut you slack because you didn't sign for the badge, you are dreaming.

Your company expects you to abide by company policy when you are on the job, no matter if you are on company property or at a customer site. Since you are acting as a representative of the company, I think that your company would expect you to respect and observe the rules and policies of their customers when you visit their sites. To do otherwise is disrespectful and unprofessional.

IMO, trying to find subtle ways to get around company policies is not productive. No one is going to admire or reward you for being so clever that you legally got away with carrying a concealed handgun on your customer's property against their wishes.

As with many decisions, it all boils down to whether or not you want to accept the risks. You have to make a choice if you willing to lose your job if you are caught. After you get fired, are you willing to have to disclose on an employment application that you were fired from your last job for carrying a handgun at work. If your answers are "yes" then carrry away.

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