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by WildBill
Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:59 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?
Replies: 42
Views: 5163

Re: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?

I don't want to hijack this thread, but what would you think about changing the law to make it a requirement showing your CHL whenever an LEO asks for your ID? That way this question would never come up.
by WildBill
Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:02 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?
Replies: 42
Views: 5163

Re: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?

KBCraig wrote:
WildBill wrote:Abraham - As Keith stated there have been hundreds of posts on this subject. Unfortunately we haven't heard from very many LEOs to hear their preferences.
What our member LEOs think about this really isn't important. Don't get me wrong, I value their opinions and expertise, but they're all CHL-friendly.

Guess which I'd choose?
The opinion of a CHL-friendly LEO may not change how you think or act in this particular scenario, but that doesn't make their opinions unimportant in this discussion. Even though the LEO forum members may be "CHL-friendly" they all have worked for and with LEOs who are not of the same persuation, so I value and welcome their opinions and input.

While I completely understand the logic and your reasoning for your actions, it doesn't mean that I will act in the same way. As I stated in my last post:
You are never going to please every one so the bottom line is to do what you feel is the best for you in your particular situation.
You have stated your choice and I respect it. One of these days, I may even change my mind.
by WildBill
Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:05 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?
Replies: 42
Views: 5163

Re: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?

Abraham wrote:When traffic stopped by an LEO some here think it courteous to hand over their CHL in addition to their DL - when NOT armed. If the law states such is not required, why do it?

How is it courteous? (I'm not debating that it isn't - that's what I'm trying to find out)

My original instructor advised us NOT to do such. He told stories of LEO's responding angrily when handed an unrequested CHL and telling the CHL holder he DIDN'T ask for the CHL, just the driver's license and if he'd wanted the CHL he would've said so.
Abraham - As Keith stated there have been hundreds of posts on this subject. Unfortunately we haven't heard from very many LEOs to hear their preferences.

Many people on this forum think that presenting your CHL to the LEO shows that you "are one of the good guys" and will put them at ease. Others think that they will be more likely to get a warning rather than a ticket.

As I have stated in the past, I don't think that it is courteous. If I am not carrying, I think it's excess information that the LEO doesn't need to know nor do they want to know. The one time when I did present my CHL, the LEO never asked if I was carrying. But, I may be wrong because I have never been let off with just a warning. :oops:

As far as your instructor's "stories" I can't vouch for them either way, but I suspect it doesn't happen very often and your instructor may be exaggerating. I don't remember anyone posting of an LEO getting angry about it. You are never going to please every one so the bottom line is to do what you feel is the best for you in your particular situation. :tiphat:

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