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srothstein wrote:The Police Chief article is interesting, but can be more confusing than the situation is.

I wonder if some of the confusion and vagueness about the laws date back to the time when many people didn't have cars or drive. I know that both my grandmothers never got a drivers license. I don't know if they had state IDs.

JALLEN wrote:A peace office might state it anywhere from "May I please see your driver's license, sir?" to "Got some ID, buddy!", or worse!

LEO: You got some ID?
Redneck: 'Bout what?

Katygunnut wrote:Now if you respond to the request by saying "no thanks" that might well trigger a demand on the part of the officer if they really, really want to see your ID. So you could always short circuit things and just show your ID in the first place.

RiveraRa wrote:My assumption is since they are asking, they are not demanding it. Correct?

Not correct IMO. Just because an LEO asks "Can I see your driver's license?" doesn't mean it's not a demand. IMO, he's just being polite. For me, it is better than the first statement "I demand that you give me your driver's license!" Again I am not an LEO and IANAL so I could be wrong.

A demand is an emphatic claim, which presumes that no doubt exists regarding its legal force and effect. It is a request made with authority.

A legal demand is one that is made by a lawfully authorized individual and is proper as to form, time, and place.