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by WildBill
Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:25 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: CA: Burglary suspect sues homeowner who defended himself
Replies: 34
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Re: CA: Burglary suspect sues homeowner who defended himself

seamusTX wrote:
57Coastie wrote:But more importantly, none of this does away with the presumption of innocence.

I haven't seen a verdict,...
The defendant was found guilty on all counts today (Wednesday).

I can't say whether he was indicted by a grand jury. I know almost nothing about California law, but I would think charges of three of the most serious crimes on the books would go before a grand jury.

The presumption of innocence means that the state must prove its case without begging the question (i.e., "if you weren't guilty you wouldn't be on trial").

However, commentators such as ourselves who have no influence on the case can draw our own conclusions. ;-)

- Jim
In California, they don't use the grand jury like Texas. In California, when a person is arrested on felony charges they have a preliminary hearing in municipal court where the DA presents an abbreviated case in front of a judge to determine if there is probable cause that a felony was committed and that the defendent committed it.

During the preliminary hearing the DA presents just enough evidence to convince the judge to decide whether or not to bind the defendant to a trial in the Superior Court. The DA can present evidence and witnesses and the defense attorney can cross examine. I don't know the percentages, but most all of the defendants are bound to the superior court after the prelim.
Oh, I forgot. IANAL. ;-)
by WildBill
Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:03 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: CA: Burglary suspect sues homeowner who defended himself
Replies: 34
Views: 4056

Re: CA: Burglary suspect sues homeowner who defended himself

Birdie wrote:In answer to 57coastie's question, " How many of you gun owners and shooters here in this forum keep five guns handy in your bathroom? "

I do. Two master closets are in the master bath. So the majority of our guns are in the bathroom.
But are they all within lunging distance? :cool:
by WildBill
Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:12 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: CA: Burglary suspect sues homeowner who defended himself
Replies: 34
Views: 4056

Re: CA: Burglary suspect sues homeowner who defended himself

seamusTX wrote:If I jumped to a conclusion, at least I was the first in this forum to do so. ;-) - Jim
:smilelol5:

Re-reading the story, I don't think that any lawsuit has actually been filed yet.
by WildBill
Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:25 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: CA: Burglary suspect sues homeowner who defended himself
Replies: 34
Views: 4056

Re: CA: Burglary suspect sues homeowner who defended himself

seamusTX wrote:I don't understand what legal basis exists for the father being a party to the lawsuit. (Lawsuits by survivors of deceased people are a different matter.)- Jim
Maybe he was embarrassed or got his feelings hurt when people called his kid dumb. :cool:
by WildBill
Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:51 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: CA: Burglary suspect sues homeowner who defended himself
Replies: 34
Views: 4056

Re: CA: Burglary suspect sues homeowner who defended himself

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