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by Solaris
Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:02 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List
Replies: 59
Views: 12756

Re: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List

mojo84 wrote:One of the problems I see in this and other threads, if someone isn't 100% in lockstep with what is considered conservative, libertarian or pro-2nd "correct" thinking, people conclude that person is a left-wing nut planted to perpetuate a grand conspiracy to infiltrate the "correct" thinkers and throw the the election to the commie criminal. It is impossible to get 100% buy in on all nuances of an issue buy all folks that support an issue such as liberty, 2nd Amendment, economics, religion etc.

Being so dogmatic that everything is either black or white is shortsighted. For those that want to jump to accusing me of being a "liberal plant", you couldn't be further from the truth. While I base my opinions and decisions on principles, I understand not everything is a,ways black or white and if someone doesn't agree with me 100% they are automatically my enemy. I also don't believe it is best to always be looking for an argument or spoiling for a fight whether it is on a forum or potential civil war.

We need to focus on what unites us and less on finding the things that divide us. If not, we will eventually be referring to one another as "comrade".
What you are missing is for almost 50 years we have given in to the gun grabbers. 20,000 gun laws later, we have nothing to show for it. After we pass this current round of gun control, they will be back for more. Just like they are now back for more after we gave them Brady Law. AWB did not work, yet they are back to re-enact it. Universal background checks, no fly lists, HiCap Bans. 30.06/07 signs, There is no end because the end to them is a complete ban turn them in.

There is a point when you have stand up and point out this stuff does not work! So no more.

I see a lot of folks on this forum OK with more gun control. Are they OK with more gun freedom? How about instead of spending so much time talking about what gun control we are OK with, we talk about what gun freedom we demand! Here is a compromise that directly benefits Texas CHL'ers.

If they want to keep bad guys from getting guns by putting preventing watchlist folks from buying guns, how about they allow good guys to carry guns in all 50 states?

Is anyone against us getting something in return, or di we have to go 100% lockstep with them and nothing for us?
by Solaris
Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:35 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List
Replies: 59
Views: 12756

Re: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List

I say we just go to a complete ban on guns turn them in and stop this death by a thousands cuts.

I am going to join the pro-choice movement. At least they have the backbone to never give in.
by Solaris
Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:11 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List
Replies: 59
Views: 12756

Re: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List

The Wall wrote:I would have thought this was already being done. If you're being investigated by FBI or any other law enforcement entity wouldn't it show up when purchasing a gun or getting a LTC?
No LE investigations are generally confidential so nobody would know.
by Solaris
Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:07 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List
Replies: 59
Views: 12756

Re: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List

I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns
Nowhere does he say he is in favor of it. He is meeting to discuss it.

Maybe he is uniformed about the Watch List and NRA will point out to him it is an arbitrary list and supporting legislation of this kind is unacceptable.

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