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JALLEN wrote:

mloamiller wrote:

pushpullpete wrote: however, you broke the 'spirit' of the law when you saw & disregarded the 'illegal' sign and that kind of action can shine an unfavorable light on the whole 'responsible gun owner' thing that most of us are trying to put forward.

We'll have to disagree on that. The law is very clear on what a business owner is required to do. If they haven't put enough effort into finding out what that requirement is and then implementing it correctly, that's on them.

I am being responsible in that I have put in the effort to know what the law states.

Actually, maybe it isn't clear what is required. We who are the most concerned don't seem to be all that clear about it.

We all believed a valid 30.06 sign was the predicate for a violation, but now, with the changes, at least for a no weapons policy, you need have no sign at all.

If you enter OC, you can be told to leave, or handed a card, and you must. If you are "made" somehow, they know you have a pistol even though you believe it is concealed, or even if they don't know, they can hand you a card with the wording, or tell you, you have effective notice. I wonder if it could be printed in appropriate type and color on a menu to suffice.

JALLEN wrote:Here is a scenario:

You and a small group of friends meet at a restaurant for dinner. On the way in, you notice a clearly invalid 30.06 sign near the door. Your pistol is concealed, so no worries.

During dinner, you are asked to pass the catsup and, half standing, reach across the large table to hand it to another. A few minutes later, the hostess stops by and tells you that your pistol was noticed while you were stretched out across the table, that weapons are not allowed in the restaurant, and you must either take it to your car, and would then be welcome to return, or leave if not.

1. Do you take the pistol out to the car and return, weaponless? Or

2. Point out that the sign out front is non compliant, therefore meaningless, and return to your chicken fried steak? Or

3. Leave promptly and do not return, leaving the bill unpaid? The others finish their meal and pay their portion. Or

4. The entire party leaves right then, without paying?