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by Soccerdad1995
Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:35 pm
Forum: 2017 Legislative Wish List
Topic: Political Capital-Prohibited Places vs Constitutional Carry
Replies: 128
Views: 53000

Re: Political Capital-Prohibited Places vs Constitutional Carry

Papa_Tiger wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I can tell you, I met with my rep, his chief of staff and one of his legislative affairs staffers and they all three said they get the impression there is zero appetite to pursue MAJOR new legislation in the area of guns and 2nd Amendment, most especially unlicensed carry. They indicate some minor cleanup and clarifying legislation may have a shot but nothing major.

That's just one rep but it appears they've been testing the water on this issue.
At the beginning of last session, I'm pretty sure that I recall people saying their reps were indicating that there was limited support for open carry and very little for campus carry and we wound up with both.

Last session was a FANTASTIC one for gun rights in Texas. My biggest hope is that the dishonesty of local officials regarding fines for signs receives attention at the capitol and will result in fewer off-limits locations for LTC holders as well as more teeth in SB273.
We definitely need to do something about strengthening the "fines for signs" law. Are there any bills that will either strengthen this, or go a different way altogether to try and get at the same result?

I can think of a number of approaches that might work, including a fine payable directly to any LTC holder that is unlawfully denied entry because they are carrying (either OC or CC). That requires a legal determination, but it would put the onus on the government agency to show that they, or their lessee, denied entry for some other reason (loud, abusive behavior, etc). Make the fine large enough to matter. $25,000 per instance / person denied entry, and it should deter the criminal behavior we are seeing now from the public servants that we employ.
by Soccerdad1995
Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:46 am
Forum: 2017 Legislative Wish List
Topic: Political Capital-Prohibited Places vs Constitutional Carry
Replies: 128
Views: 53000

Re: Political Capital-Prohibited Places vs Constitutional Carry

I strongly believe that 30.06 / 30.07 signs should not have force of law for a property owner who has decided to put out an open invite for the general public to visit their property (aka a business owner). I can (barely) buy the argument that my personal prejudices should trump the god given rights of people that have been personally invited into my home, but once I have opened my property to the general public, I should not have the right to use the arrest power of the government to enforce my personal preferences on how they think, speak, dress, or do anything else that is not explicitly illegal in the first place. If I have put out an open invitation and then dislike the fact that someone mentioned their support of Hillary or a dislike of Trump, I can tell them to leave. But I shouldn't be able to just call the police and have them arrested or fined unless they refuse to leave. Same goes for their exercise of other rights, including the RKBA.

BUT, this belief of mine is not even fully supported by those on this forum, not to mention the general public. So I will just deal with it as I am allowed to do under current law. I totally understand that the political process is not ideal, and I fully support the need to prioritize our efforts. I will be extremely happy if we can remove all prohibited (publicly owned) locations this session, even if we make no other progress.

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