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TheFriscoKid wrote:

montgomery wrote:

TheFriscoKid wrote:

1911 Raptor wrote:i Think we have an anti in our midst.

Would a photo of my guns clear the air ? A recent target ?

No sir. You made it quite clear that this is not your fight. If you are not willing to stand and fight, then you are part of the problem. And that IS the problem.

I have a life, loved ones, people that I love and love me. A lot to live for and a lot of life lived. The only thing I'd kill or die for would be to protect my wife and son.

Guns are a part of my life, they are not my life.

montgomery wrote:

TheFriscoKid wrote:

1911 Raptor wrote:i Think we have an anti in our midst.

Would a photo of my guns clear the air ? A recent target ?

No sir. You made it quite clear that this is not your fight. If you are not willing to stand and fight, then you are part of the problem. And that IS the problem.

TheFriscoKid wrote:

It is human nature to be lazy and scared. That is what tyrants have counted on all throughout history.

It's not being 'lazy or scared' - it's being strategic.

No one here, no group of people here are capable of winning against the govt. During the revolution it only took a few rifles and a few good men. What is your 5,000 acre hillbilly compound going to do against an army equipped with tanks, blackhawks and warthogs?

It's common sense to live to fight another day. It's also common sense in every day life and in nature.

Although the argument has gotten sidetracked - the main idea is give up worthless concessions like "the mentally ill should have easier access to guns" before much more restrictive regulations are forced upon us.

anygunanywhere wrote:

TheFriscoKid wrote:I've lived 55 years - haven't "needed" a gun yet.

Did you ever stop to think that the fact that so many of us have firearms and hold the 2A in such high regard is the very reason we have not degraded into a socialist heck hole yet?

Your definition of "need" is undoubtedly quite different from mine.

You started this thread about wanting to keep your guns, but so far I have read no commitment to doing what is necessary to keep them. You have stated that you would turn them in.

oljames3 wrote:

TheFriscoKid wrote:

jason812 wrote:

TheFriscoKid wrote:
Is everyone here a 'cold dead hands' advocate ?

Yes

Jason, no wife or children ? No other passions or hobbies ? Travel? Anything ?

Really - honestly willing to have a shoot out where the certain result is your death? Regardless of how many you'd take with you ?

Many of us here swore a solemn oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same. There is no expiration date on that oath.

Flightmare wrote:https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/nic ... h_year.pdf

Again, the NICS check numbers do not seem to coincide with the chart you provided. June 2016 set a record for the most background checks done in the month of June for any year. 2016 itself had more NICS checks done than any other year in history. 2017 was down slightly from 2016, but only enough to put it at the 2nd highest year in history. Now to be fair, there is a disclaimer at the bottom of the data put out by the FBI.

These statistics represent the number of firearm background checks initiated through the NICS. They do not represent the number of firearms sold.

They're right. Just because a background check is initiated, does not mean a firearm was sold.
A person could change their mind.
A person could be denied by NICS.
Or like many of us on here, a person could have a LTC (or their state equivalent) which meets the guidelines that do not require a background check being done for every firearm purchase.

Either way, an increase in NICS checks tells me that more and more firearms are being purchased. Additionally, there are more people getting their carry licenses.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/22/de ... shows.html

The chart you posted does not coincide with the fact that more people are getting their carry licenses, and more NICS checks are being run. I believe our president might call it "Fake News".

philip964 wrote:Had that bill gotten enough Republicans to get on board, Obama would have signed it and the Florida school shooter would not have been able to kill 17 last week.

So in reality, the Democratic bill would have saved those children. He would not have had the chance to kill as many with a bolt action rifle.

Yeah, the FBI not being stupid would have saved them too. But the AR15 ban would have saved those children. No doubt in my mind.

My social media is a blaze with ban the AR15, end the second amendment, kick the GOP out in November.

The GOP needs to get a head of this with their own bill. Now.

flechero wrote:

NNT wrote: My church today talked to some of us and reminded us they don't consider carry guns in the building appropriate, but falling far short of banning us. I struggle with that one. For now I choose to respect the request. I am not sure I alway will.

Sorry to hear that... it would have been my last day there. It's a non-negotiable item for me.

philip964 wrote:18 years old for bolt action rifle or 2 barrel shotgun.

21 years old for semi automatic handgun, pump shotgun

25 years old semi automatic rifle, automatic shotgun

No bump stocks or other rapid fire devices

50 state plus D.C. CHL license.

No off limits for CHL, except NFL stadiums, and businesses who post.

rp_photo wrote:

TheFriscoKid wrote:I also want to see an end to mass shootings, school massacres and suicides.

What is the common thread? Declining mental health.

I don't think we have a gun problem but a mental health problem.

An untended consequence I see is gun owners being unwilling to seek help for mental issues out of fear of losing their rights. And I can't say I blame them.