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by Soccerdad1995
Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:03 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: GA: "Jogger" chased and murdered
Replies: 311
Views: 106181

Re: GA: "Jogger" chased and murdered

philip964 wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:50 am Slowly hold hands up. Say don’t shoot. Stand still. Freeze. Turn around and run away (distance is your friend). Keep hand still and where guy with shot gun can see them.

Don’t: reach in you pockets, make sudden moves. Reach behind your back.

In no case run towards someone with a shotgun pointed at you.

There are exceptions. But not here in this case.
This assumes that you trust the guy holding the gun to not kill you as you run away or just stand there facing them. I'm not sure that I would jump to that assumption if a non-uniformed man was repeatedly trying to stop me while I was not doing anything illegal, and then approached me with a gun in his hands. This is especially true if I suspect that the man and his friends may not like me for any reason, including my race.

Of course I would expect that I'd be armed in this situation so that gives me other options. Still three to one against are not good odds under any circumstances.
by Soccerdad1995
Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:52 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: GA: "Jogger" chased and murdered
Replies: 311
Views: 106181

Re: GA: "Jogger" chased and murdered

philip964 wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:57 pm So will this be the first time a man, videotaping in a separate car 100 ft from a self defense death, is convicted of murdering a jogging stranger in his neighborhood, where you leave your car unlocked because of break-ins, and a jogging stranger who previously fought with police trying to arrest him and had previously been shown on surveillance video not jogging and entering a private home under construction?

I am only surprised the homeowner doing the remodeling with the security video wasn’t also arrested for murder as well. It may be because he wisely said, I never told anyone to watch my house.
The problem is that he was doing more than just filming.
by Soccerdad1995
Mon May 10, 2021 5:00 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: GA: "Jogger" chased and murdered
Replies: 311
Views: 106181

Re: GA: "Jogger" chased and murdered

philip964 wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 4:40 pm https://news.yahoo.com/gov-kemp-set-rep ... 29969.html

Citizens arrest law repealed in Georgia.

A citizens arrest is probably a bad idea anyway.

Not something I would want to do.
I agree that it is a bad idea for a casual observer to try to arrest someone they see committing a crime, where the observer is not a victim of the crime.

But I also think the devil is in the details here. The article says that businesses can still detain people, presumably with force, and that licensed security officers can also detain people.

To me, a key question would be whether a regular homeowner could detain an intruder until police arrive, including the use of force to do so. Or would this be unlawful under the revised law?

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