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hoss4570 wrote:Yeah I get your point but MY point is stuff goes up. Shells cost a heck of a lot more now than when I was a kid, or when my dad was a kid. Don't do no good to get in a twist about it. Heck, when I started dipping Copenhagen it was .45 cents a can. Now it's nearly six bux. Things go up. A new Chevy used to cost three thousand dollars, now that won't buy a good used Chevy.

I hear ya', dude. I think we're on the same team here.

hoss4570 wrote:I just find it hard to believe that another two or three dollars a box on ammo is going to hurt you. If it does, them maby you need to seek out a higher paying job. Just my opinion...................

I'm blessed to make a good living already, so truthfully speaking this 15% price increase is affordable for me. My concern pertains to the long-term agenda at work here, not the short-term price increase. Perhaps there is no bad faith on the part of these ammo companies; I don't regularly buy copper or brass, so I'm willing to accept the rationale of rising costs of production...up to a point, that is.

That said, when and where does it stop, dude? "Don't worry, it's just a couple of bucks more here...a buck or two more there...a gun law here...a gun restriction there, et cetera, et cetera." Do you see where I'm going with this analysis? Think about the precedent that is being set with these sweeping, industry-wide policies.

You'll have to forgive me, I'm a bit of a cynic, and I am always suspicious when several corporations band together and jointly announce identical policies...historically, this signals monopolism and is ultimately bad for consumers. Plus, I think we all know what the real intent of that recently-proposed OSHA regulation was, don't we? You know, "they" (whomever "they" are) won't have to take our guns from us if we can't afford to purchase ammo any longer.

hoss4570 wrote:Just thank GOD we live in America where we can gripe about how good we have it.

I DO thank the Good Lord for that, every day of the week, my fellow citizen!

Photoman wrote:

hoss4570 wrote:If it hurts you that much to give a little bit more, then quit driving and shooting.

Give? Give more to the back pockets of multi-million dollar corporations? Please! If you chose to believe what they are saying, that's fine. I don't.

If you are attempting to question my personal patriotism, I'll ignore it in the interest of civility.

Photoman, I think good old Hoss might just be a shareholder of Winchester/Remington/ATK stock!

hoss4570 wrote:If it hurts you that much to give a little bit more, then quit driving and shooting.

Yeah right. Good idea...

Photoman wrote:Hmmm. I see the ammo companies have learned a lesson or two from the oil companies...

Touché indeed, dude! Despite all of their talk regarding the war effort and rising metal prices, my spidey-senses detect a little collusion and old fashioned price-fixing on the part of these ammo companies

Dear Fellow Shooters:

I've seen some sporadic board discussion of this pending price increase, but I wanted to try and inform those who may not be aware of what's coming down the pike. So, news flash, here it is...

Several major American ammo companies (i.e., ATK which owns CCI/Speer/Federal; as well as Remington and Winchester) have recently notified retailers of their intention to significantly increase their prices on loaded ammo and re-loading components.

In most cases, this will result in at least a 15% price increase across the board on loaded ammo, with certain military calibers (i.e., .223/5.56mm) due for an even larger increase of 25%. The main reasons behind this increase include the allegedly soaring costs of certain semi-precious metals (i.e., copper, brass, zinc, etc.) and the military's ongoing war effort in the Sandbox and the Rockbox (Iraq and Afghanistan). Great news, huh!

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