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Abraham wrote:socialists and their ilk have depressed a lot of folks in recent years here in the U.S.A.

Back to Mayberry for a moment, a lot of you, in fact, I guess most of you missed my point altogether.

Yeah, yeah, I remember milkmen, heck, even ice men, and not locking your door and so on, but it wasn't like that for each and every one of us who lived during those times.

There was a lot of accepted evil during those times: Driving drunk was more or less approved, beating your wife was more or less approved, child molestation was kept hush-hush, being black/brown was a horror for many, police brutality was common and on and on.

Yes, the fifties were great, but not completely...

The fifties were definitely a far less regulated era (i.e. more free), and people were allowed to make mistakes. I think society could have corrected those problems without selling our souls to the Feds. I trust my neighbors more than I trust the government.

Abraham wrote:Ruark,

Sorry ole chum, but those were great days, for some...

I too am a product of the fifties and while I miss some of the positives, I don't miss any of the negatives of which the list is quite long.

Mayberry RFD never really existed.

Mayberry existed for many. Me included. Doors never locked. Fishing and hunting whenever we wanted to. Our town had one cop who would let you get away with mischief as long as you weren't causing any real trouble. I tell people that my childhood was idyllic, and I also tell them that for my children, growing up in the highly regulated suburbs (near necessary employment centers) with zero tolerance brain-dead schools was not healthy.

BurtG wrote:The decline of this country has been planned and worked on for years.
Education has been replaced by indoctrination in many schools of so called higher learning for years now.
The dumbing down of America has been a successful program. We are seeing the results more and more with
younger people advocating socialism, even though they may not actually understand it.

I don't know if it has been planned, probably not, but definitely no concern was shown by those in power (corporations, educators, politicians) of promoting the American character. That is tragic.

ScottDLS wrote:

zatoman wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:I will cling to my guns and religion until the blue helmeted UN troops fast rope from the black helicopters into my back yard. Then they'll march me to the FEMA camps where they turn us into Soylient Green.

I guess that is one vote that I am overly concerned. But to me the trend is obviously not on our side. I think the Country is unrecognizable (and not in a good way) to what it was in the '50s.

Sorry I couldn't resist. I am getting more interested in prepping and living off the grid...but I have to contend with work too.

No problem. Sadly, prepping for a catastrophe is easier than prepping for the US becoming a totalitarian state.

ScottDLS wrote:I will cling to my guns and religion until the blue helmeted UN troops fast rope from the black helicopters into my back yard. Then they'll march me to the FEMA camps where they turn us into Soylient Green.

I guess that is one vote that I am overly concerned. But to me the trend is obviously not on our side. I think the Country is unrecognizable (and not in a good way) to what it was in the '50s.

I used to worry that the lack of border security, the decline in a uniting common language, and the lack of a common culture would sink this Country. I don't worry so much anymore because the outcome is clear and irreversible, and because I am old and will soon be gone. The welfare state tower of Babel is here and growing. Even with the increased attention given to the 2nd Amendment over the past 8 years, I don't see how traditional Americans (i.e. Christian, English speaking, independent minded) can hold on much longer. Birth rates are clear, and will not change soon. Corporations are global and to them the American Century was a quaint time and they have no desire to revisit it.

I think we are fighting a rearguard action while the country is falling back.

It will be interesting to see if traditional Americans put up a fight, or just give up their arms, when America is finally melded into the Global order.