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lrb111 wrote:

HighVelocity wrote:Those 22's did not expand going through the metal sign. They simply stretched the metal when passing through.

Hollow points don't expand when they meet resistance? That's going to surprise some folks.

They expanded, but the expansion doesn't create the hole, nor (necessarily) match the size of the hole.

lrb111 wrote:I'll go down to a .22, but won't carry a .25.

The .22 has more energy and is far more effective than the .25 ACP. For ultra-deep concealment, the NAA Black Widow in .22LR or WMR would be acceptable, if only in the "when you can't carry a gun" category.

I don't currently own one, but I would carry a .380 for special occasions. I'll probably add the LCP when everything settles down and all the bugs are discovered and corrected.

Right now I'm 80% .45, 15% .38+P, and 5% 9x18 (Makarov).